Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

If this was in Roscrea there was only one person who I would class as 'looney'. I felt really sorry for a lot of them. There are no winners here.

Taking away local jobs.

Heard a girl on Newstalk yesterday talking about her gofundme page trying to raise a 100k for a procedure in London to keep her out of a wheelchair, she has progressive MS. Doctors in London have assessed her as suitable but the Dept of health has refused funding so she has to try and raise the money herself while we are spending 5.5 billion on housing Ukranians. We're supposed to be a wealthy country yet you have local groups trying to raise money for new hospital equipment while local health boards are cutting carer hours due to lack of funding.

Genuine question, why is it that single men have to segregated from single mothers and women when they are placed say in hotels having security and such?

Yep, heard that - shocking stuff and a real sense of resentment against this government policy. Followed by O'Gorman waffling on about obligations and rule of law. Wait till the electorate get hold of this crowd and they will feel the full rigour of democracy. O'Gorman was asked about the 330 asylum arrivals in first week of Jan - no answers. Just when is enough enough? Will 500 a week be OK or will he still be faffing about when it's a 1000 a week?

Apart from that, the states main problem at present are the male asylum seekers. The new tactic seems to be to shift 'women, children and families' from accommodation that's 'working', stick the males in there and put the 'women, children and families' in the contentious sites. Presumably they think that once established, they can then readjust the profile of these places.

As regards RTE, it was notable that having gone through these issues last Sunday afternoon on RTE radio, that Eamon Ryan quickly followed it with a discussion on how 'public service' broadcasting might be protected i.e. funded. It was as naked a statement that RTE should be the communicator for the government as you'll get.

How the hell did the Greens ever get into this sort of zealous control?

In terms of obligations, I saw it mentioned last week that Denmark told the EU where to go on that last year and are no longer taking part in such initiatives.

By the time we vote out these idiots it will be too late and they will be off on their merry way with big fat pensions.

Sure they could easily just buy a nice home abroad and retire leaving us to pick up the pieces for years.

They know they will be voted out but don’t care.

One thing i take comfort in at the moment is this: whats the old saying: "If you're explaining, then you're losing".

The fact that the Government feels the need to "explain" and communicate means they know they're losing. They've lost the room, they've gone too far. And they know it. People can smell a fraud and they can smell a government trying to pretend that fraud is legitimate.

When we see article after article in newspapers from left wing journalists (Fintan O'toole today) on this topic too, then we know the media commentariat are on the defensive too. They feel the need to "explain" to the plebs. If only we'd roll over and get on board with the fraud, with the human trafficking, with the burning of ID's and with the total pretense that these people are fleeing anything other than third world poverty.

All i can say is it's going to be an interesting 2024.

Regardless of the rights or wrongs of the Danish approach, the Irish Government can't just use international obligations as an excuse for doing nothing on any given issues. If the obligations are excessive it's their duty to pass on the message that Ireland can't and won't comply. We are not subjects, this is still a soverign country.

I hate that the immigration situation has me making statements like the above, but unfortunately we are being led by donkeys who are allowing social cohesion to break down.

I didn't claim this no. No idea what you are on about.

In Limerick, there are plans to house about 200+ in the old Salesians school on the NCR. No information about who they are putting in there yet, however the girls school is still there. So those children will be attending classes with 200+ asylum/IPS literally a stones throw from them.

O'Gorman has always come across as being a completely inept clown, but his doubling down and claiming that they will handle everyone coming in is not going to work. Maybe the only way anyone puts the brakes on this is to point blank refuse to provide any further property for this use - Rod can let them all stay in his house since he loves them so **** much.

It really is, given that the Government have made so much about right wing misinformation. Those points would be fair enough, if the likes of Varadkar himself was prepared to be honest. If the Taoiseach has been found to be lying, how can the public have any confidence in the messages from Government?

I think a lot of people (myself included) were very surprised to learn that people who have their applications for refugee status rejected are not deported.

Immigration is becoming a lightning rod for dissatisfaction about a number of issues. This is going to a dark place, fast. The Government need to be honest and acknowledge that immigration needs to be reduced and start taking steps towards that. This shouldn't even be controversial, the UK PM has acknowledged it needs to happen there, it's basic common sense.

I suppose basically some of the same fears that the local people have. Only they don't have the security on site.

And are racists of course.

I assume it's that bit cheaper too.

I beg your pardon, it was @BlueSkyDreams who claimed that males etc shared with all others etc

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