Sinn Fein and how do they form a government dilemma

2011 and the New Politics nonsense. Multiple cock ups and failures since. And then somebody tries to make out only one party here is 'incompetent'. A party that has never been in power. Laughable really.

The sensationalism again.

Has the country got problems, yes, it has.

Did they get rewarded at the ballot box last time? don't think so.

Voting in a shower of incompetent TD's who you know are incompetent but they are a "change" isn't the answer either is it?

Sure sign you know you have been caught out when you use this line.

Whenever you find anything where SF say they will 'turn their backs on FDI' do post it.

Someday google the differences between a sovereign government and a county council.

So what does it mean when the government have promised again and again to sort out the problems here - they have had years to do it - problems still exist.

Incompetent?

Basically your debating tactic if the government is criticised or if you are asked to provide back up is to switch to something else.

Not a very credible way to debate.

I have asked you to post back up for the claim 'SF will turn their backs on FDI'

So far we have got nothing from the poster who made the claim and from you we have got something about Apple,

SF raising taxes,

SF failing at housing in DCC, a county council.

Now it is you who is avoiding and posting nonsense because you simply won't admit the claim made cannot be backed up.

*All political party's are incompetent at times. Those who have been in power do the most damage via their incompetence. I know it feels edgy to keep shouting this as if it is an exclusive SF trait but the facts show it simply isn't.

Surely the strawman is that raising personal taxes is turning your back on FDI.

I listed some countries who have done that and are still seeking and getting FDI. As I said, I can find no evidence of either corporate flight or personnel flight from those countries. The things that we are told will happen here if SF raise taxes.

If I am wrong, it's very simple. Show me how I am.

I don't think you want be shown what jumps out as stated in my last post to be honest,well actually I do think you know what's wrong and what jumps out,but just want to ignore pesky stuff like that again and again in favour of your straw man

Where has corporate flight and personnel flight happened because taxes were raised?

Where have countries who have raised income tax rates stopped looking for FDI or stopped getting it

It has either happened before or it is sensationalising and scaremongering.

Judging from the countries listed they have found a balance between what is required in tax income and maintaining FDI investment.

What is the claim here? That the Shinners caused the housing crisis?

The facts are that government policy led to a decline in social housing provision across every council and municipal district in the country and it was happening long before SF in DCC as the graph below shows.

Figure 1 illustrates the decline in the construction of social housing directly by the government. In 1975 local authorities built 8,794 social housing units, which accounted for one-third of the total new housing provision that year. This building trend was reduced to 5,559 in 2005, which equalled just 6% of the housing provided, and in 2015 the state built just 75 units (Byrne and Norris 2017), a shockingly low number considering that the number of people living in homelessness increased by 30% compared to October 2016 (DHPLGH 2017).

So a countrywide problem developing before and after SF's tenure in Dublin is down to SF wanting housing to fail?

How did they recruit all the other areas to fail?

Are the posters to take cognisance of the failures of any other party's who 'controlled' councils?

Did someone mention 'excuses'?

That's just proving what a good job the current government is doing at attracting FDI

On the original question, they can't form a government.

The immigration issue is pulling SF voters away to other parties and independents. Their vote is been split, I expect them to do far worse in the next GE.

Less votes for SF leave the coalition the only viable government in place. FF and FG are hitched for life now, too strong together for any other government.

The other question is would FF or FG do business with SF if it comes to it? FF I could see, no chance FG.

Nobody knows till next election. At an educated guess I have said FF won't. This is because the grassroots won't allow FF plus a number of TD's who would walk if FF went to SF.

In terms of the FF & FG, no idea if they will or won't but declaring they are "hitched for life" seems a big call to make.

It has been claimed:

There will be corporate flight and personnel flight if SF raise taxes yet no evidence of this happening elsewhere has been presented.

Then we were told that savvy business people right left and centre are responding to the prospect of SF being in government yet they are continuing to invest in the future here.

As I said, as scaremongering goes this is not very competent stuff.