Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

Absolutely nothing would happen, but the government would have to ignore a court order, which is dangerous precedent. The way around that is to sharply raise the threshold of who is accepted as a genuine refugee, as the obligation only applies to genuine refugees. If only 1% are accepted as genuine, then the problem goes away. Problem we have is we are accepting 90%+ of applicants, which is absurd.

But they can turn you around at the airport

We signed and ratified the Geneva convention, taking it into domestic law in the Refugee act 1996.

should the government act unlawfully, then anyone can take them to court to fulfil their legal obligations.

Not if you claim asylum. And they don't. They accept asylum seekers, same as other countries

I just caught up with Prime Time and I'm stunned, literally stunned, The incompetents of this Government knows no bounds

Imagine you remove a Community's only Hotel and now you're going to establish a new hotel in the town. I honestly shaking my head is disbelief, do they not listen to what they are saying?

I'm sick and **** tired of these jackasses in Government trouping around oh we're obligated to take refugees or immigrants. If we had a drinking game every time Thomas Byrne said "we're legally obligated to take these refugees or immigrants" we would be out of the count in no time. This is not my understanding what so ever and just more lies from this Government and pity Miriam doesn't know the facts about all of this......

I don't think I've ever been this mad about a Governments policy, the amount of damage they are doing will be felt for years. I cannot understand why they don't just opt out like the Danish have done?

On another note here's an article I found

https://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2024/0116/1426927-i-am-feeling-cold-asylum-applicants-sleep-rough-in-dublin/

"Omar from Egypt is a single male applicant sleeping on the streets for the past two weeks. He said he finds it hard to sleep at night with the cold. "After three or four hours I cannot bear it," he said.

Pointing to his jacket and jeans, he said: "I have only these clothes. I am feeling cold."

He said if he had known what he had to endure in Ireland he would never have left Egypt. But he said he cannot go back without the money to repay people who brought him to Ireland. He does not want others to be fooled by what to expect when leaving their home country.

"I want to tell these people, if you're coming here, you stay in the street," he said.

"Stay in your country, stay with your family. Because me, I can't come back because to come here I paid €10,000. I want to give it back. If me not give it back, I can't come back."

My god, just sums up Ireland. He should be back on the plane tomorrow to Egypt

Most of those reasons are bullshit on the basis that they had documents at embarkation.

The options are pretty limited...

They have destroyed or concealed their legitimate documents to frustrate the IP assessment process

or

They used fraudulent documents at embarkation which they later destroyed, concealed or handed to a third party, to cover their tracks and / or frustrate the IP assessment process.

When 70% of IPA’s arriving into Dublin Airport say they have no documents, they're working from a playbook, they're scam artists.

Why don't FF/FG buy the people of Tipperary a new Roscrea?

It's more likely a perceived threat than a real one but you've described the issue in a nutshell.

There would be far less protest and frustration about housing asylum seekers in small Irish towns if these town had adequate services to cope with the population increase and the specific needs of asylum seekers.

Medical services, physical and mental. Policing, hosuing, public transport, education etc. These services are already over constrained and yet the government is surprised by a backlash when the immigration policy puts these already strained services under even more pressure.

I wonder wil the new government hotel in roscrea be called fawlty towers?

The UpIn Arms

There are very simple steps that can be taken.

If the Government said it would forcibly deport every failed applicant that’d help, and if it also announced anyone arriving without documents would be deported as quickly as possible that’d go a long way to winning back public trust.

Things like this have to be done now, otherwise public disaffection will continue to grow.

And they’re only common sense moves anyway.

The riot last year could have put people off further protest but it actually seems to have seen it become more commonplace. The Government need to face reality, before social solidarity breaks down even further.

The one good thing that came out of the Government shambles in Roscrea is immigration/asylum seekers policy in front and center of the news and it's finally waking people up.

Yeah but the problem is the government don't care. They want the population up to 6M ASAP by hook or by crook.

You don't go advertising online for refugees far and wide. Refugees don't need an advert to know they need asylum. Usually their town is blown to pieces in a war and they have to leave or die.

They're coming here in bad faith and the only one's I'd look after temporarily are the Ukrainians already here. Although considering Ukraine are penalising their men who've left I'd send any man of fighting age back. Woman, children and old men only.

And it’s been pointed out you just as regularly that the Lisbon treaty has nothing to do with people’s right to arrive in the country and claim asylum.

I think we have a legitimately stupid Government in power. They have failed in so many areas. Now they are failing to read the mood of the nation and continuing on this path blinded and disillusioned.

MNCs, tax receipts and the work ethic of the average Irish person is what makes this country the success it is. And in most cases, we run ourselves but it is fastly grinding to a halt.

I predict we might see the worst anarchy of any EU state by the end of the year, something which will shock us to the core.

Sometimes the most obvious thing is the truth. The people in Government running the country have sub par intelligence and are motivated primarily by personal interest.