BusConnects Dublin - Bus Network Changes Discussion

Railways are the 2nd most efficient way to move anything, 2nd only to ships.

They are incredibly efficient, for example in the US, freight trains are often well over a mile long. The locomotives are big, but in terms of ratio - train weight : engine size. If you had the same ratio for your car, your cars engine would fit in your pocket.

The become even more efficient when you use AC overhead lines. Like buses don't have a tap on them. Much if Europe is investing in HSR and Metro Rail except Ireland, we're doing Coaches and Buses.

100% it's money, time and planning. And application too I suppose.

Interestingly the LGV does run trains down non-HSR lines to Ski Resorts during the winter months

Trains absolutely suck at hills (ski resorts) and it's one area where they are completely trumped by buses/coaches.

Very interesting, I'm nearly sure the Luas has regen braking though, so the penalty in acceleration would be less. Also I know I can push one Luas car (Not a whole luas) if its on the flat (Pushing a railcar on the flat is surprisingly easy). I don't think I could push bus of similar weight on the flat. I'd query the accel energy required.

Edit: Actually the one Luas car thing might be a lie, the wagon I pushed could have been significantly light than one luas railcar.

Just fyi:

Just as a point of interest, Transit has been working on a "detour detector" over in Montreal. If the detour follows another bus route, it marks that routes stops as likely temporary detour stops, or if not it "guesses" the temporary stop locations (using data points like the buses location, acceleration etc.).

DOH, only spotted your reply now!

The NTA described these figures as "staggering".

...such is the level of forward planning that they didn't forecast this.

We can add a mathematical sign of > to the left of the number of minutes meaning 'at least'. Here you go, problem solved! :D

E1/2 is Donnybrook F is mostly Harristown, from what I hear E is much later this year even early 2025.

Speaking of the Luas extension, I really hope they look at how close the Luas extension to Finglas (Charlestown) and the Metrolink are, and see if it's feasible to connect them somehow.

An extension from Charlestown to northwood will probably be in planning while finglas luas is under construction. It'd be silly not to and it seems like a silly omission anyway given ther short gap, the residential in between and the major retailers along the route but really i know this is to stop the jUst bRInG the lUAs tO the aIrPorT crowd

To go on topic again, I just wanna say that my friends from my secondary school rely on the 14. Ever since they removed the 75 they can't have a direct service home. If they remove the 14, they have no option but to go for the Luas. They do take the 74 from Dundrum every once in a while, but it still relates to the Luas from Kilmacud. I have a few suggestions to just do a a little tweaks in the network, and I know this isn't gonna come but sure.

1: Keep the 14, but remove it so it doesn't go to Beaumont, and terminate at Eden Quay.

2: 44/D: Keep all but terminate all at Parnell Square.

3: 44: Make the 23:30 service not terminate at Rosemount Estate and go to Parnell Square.

4: 16: Extend to Nutgrove Shopping Centre

5: 11: Make the 11 serve the bus stop where the 17 did just before Our Lady's Grove PS at Goatstown.

EDIT: What happened with stop 863, and stop 874? They got removed from Google Maps, so it got removed?

Once Bus Connects is fully implemented, the 14 and 16 in Balinteer will effectively be replaced by routes A2,A4 and 80 (as far as the 16 terminus):

Yes, it's unfortunate that until the A-spine launches (which will be late next year at least realistically), the people of Balinteer will have to put up with the 14 taking on the brunt of the ex-75 users.

In terms of the last 44 not running all the way into town, thankfully they have stopped doing that practice with any of the new routes, but they likely wont make any timetable changes to that route until it becomes the 88.

For stop 863 & 874, no route goes along Roebuck road any more so yes, they have been effectively removed. Mind you, I do believe they should have routed the S4 along Roebuck Road and into UCD through the Owenstown entrance, but alas.