Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

Very valid.

General housing crisis aside.

No such efforts put into student accommodation or housing the homeless . Sure our prisons are even full to the brim.

Sharing the plan would be a great first step.

Who pays the staff? Is it for profit or not for profit? Will the state be running a pub open to the public? Will the sandwiches be nice?

Does anybody know the 10 districts the government are on about?

What kind of idiot thinks this is what solves the issue?

How simple are our government leaders to think that these issues and protests are down to a hotel?

Why shutter a functioning hotel and then buy a new one?

Is this the same hotel that refurbishment began on about 3-4 months ago after being closed for 10 years - great timing for the owners if so.

How long does the government think they can proceed with this "strategy" and how far are they willing to go in their battle with these communities?

What is the damn plan going forward? Are we going to fill every town and village with provision centres? Will the people accept that?

What the hell are they doing and how will any of this encourage any sort of integration?

Probably is.

The problem here is we're already on the right economically and have been for a long time.

And look where that's got us on housing, health etc. The right want to privatize everything and that just hasn't worked here (or a lot of other places, but especially here).

I imagine we'll end up with FFG again next government with the Greens replaced by a further right independent coalition. That's not going to lead to more houses being built or any changes in health.

You've answered your own question.

Keep taking them in and keep dumping them in rural towns and villages. Keep frightening the locals by telling them the far right are lurking in the locality so don't be out protesting.

No.

"Here yis are lads, we'll give yis dis aul hotel, and ehhh....yeah.... It'll be grand"

They must want to turn the island into something resembling mega city one as there must a billion people on the planet worse off then us here.

"It'll be grand" is the thing here. Just fcuk around and hope it turns out ok.

I am seriously wondering who is actually in control here.

What is happening makes no political sense, let alone economic or societal.

There is obviously no plan and no sign of there being a plan.

Just stick them anywhere and call anyone who complains racist or far right (or "bad actors" which seems to be the new go-to phrase when far right stopped working).

It's not true unfortunately, the government makes all the efforts to make it difficult for anyone to be an illegal immigrant. Yes, you read that right, it's actually quite difficult to be an illegal immigrant in Ireland when even people who destroy their passports end up remaining here legally. And even when you go through all the hoops to become an illegal immigrant and have a deportation order issued, as long as the deportation order is not enforced technically you aren't here illegally, as a law that is not enforced is not a law, it's just an advice - You should go back to your country, at your expense, when you feel like it.

Same as the hotel in Ballinrobe. Had a fire about 11 years ago and for whatever reason never reopened. Obviously not considered viable by the owner to run as a hotel but suddenly the lucrative option of accomodating asylum seekers with none of the headaches of hiring and training and paying hospitality staff becomes a proposition and he naturally jumps at it.

Same as Breaffy House Resort outside Castlebar. Was once a lovely rural manor hotel (I worked there in my youth). Then bought by a Co Clare Building/Developer family about 20 years ago who knew even less about the hotel industry than they did about construction and developed a sports resort hotel (which incidently they were granted planing permission by Mayo Co Co on the condition/promise of funding a town sewer extension to Breaffy which they subsequently renaged on) in the run up to the London Olympics in the belief that some sports teams might choose to base themselves in the West of Ireland in preparation for the Olympics. Great long term plan that turned out to be. Offloaded to an Far Eastern based Irish consortium about 5 years ago (with damn all association or loyalty to the local community - their most recent commercial proposal last year was an application to build about 120 additional houses on the grounds of the resort) and they have reaped the lucrative demands of all the ensuing disasters since, making loadsa money out of accomodating the Covid Test Centre, Housing Ukranian refugees and now asylum seekers.

Same with Mosney which I had the pleasure to go to as a child participating in community games. No longer viable as a holiday camp but hugely lucrative for the owners over the past 20+ years. And what about all the appalling Direct Provision centres by and large privately owned which have been condemned for years and were supposed to be phased out years ago? Surely some vested interest at play there?

This is replicated all over rural Ireland where the owners of small hotels or nursing homes decide on a commercial basis that it is a much better business proposition to enter the asylum industry than remain in the one for which their premises was originally built.

Sure begs the question, why would you bother yourself with the headaches involved in the tourism/hospitality sector when the asylum industry is so much more lucrative and guaranteed by Govt underwriting for much less cost and effort.

We are rapidly moving towards a scenario where huge swathes of rural Ireland are given over to the lucrative refugee industry with, a small minority of invariably absentee landlords reaping the huge financial benefits of same, with minimal benefits, indeed a whole lot of headaches in terms of restricted access to limited resources, for the local population.

It is no wonder there is huge discontent growing amongst the populace and of course as pointed out here, the huge added hyprocracy, particulary by the ministers for Tourism and Local and Rural Development to say nothing on this, or try to divert saying "Oh nothing to see here, only right wing thugs"

Some might regard it as begrudgery or envy of fortunate and canny business people making profit out of opportunity. But the reality is that it adds minimal benefit to local communities in proportion to the additional demand that it causes on already scarce and underfunded resources

Incidently, this crises also shows up the utter hyprocracy and lack of joint up thinking especially by the Greens (a party which I voted for, for years) whereby communities with damn all access to a decent public transport system now have additional people housed in them with no access to cars who require to be bussed everwhere (especially to schools) by either private buses or taxis and Eamon Ryan's latest grand idea is to stamp out parking for public servants. Also a lot of rural hotels with no connection to a mains sewer (only teritary treatment plants) are being utilised with an occupancy far higher than that for which they were granted planning permission as hotels, posing further potential threat on water tables but in Green eyes, one off housing and farting cows pose the real threat to rural Irish environment. TII and the NRA before them for years resisted development of footpaths and lighting on rural roads, but now these rural roads surrounding rural hotels are populated with foreign nationals out walking often without adequate illumination and unused to the traffic hazards of rural Ireland. Oh yeah also Eamonn, how many of these rural hotel are located adjacent to the railway network which constitutes another of your wet dreams? But the Greens really believe the future lies in low impact sustainable tourism....

As I said complete lack of joint up thinking.