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Zgemma H7s Guide

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭whoami1


    I used Signal Finder and no channels come up for that frequency. The signal is at zero.

    I ran ABM again and did a full rescan of DVB-S and DVB-T. For most of the frequencies, the SNR in Signal Finder is at least 70%.


    It's all really weird. Perhaps my LNB is faulty and can't pick up that one single frequency, but I doubt it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,486 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    Check this site for up to date channel list as many tps might not have channels on or moved.

    https://en.kingofsat.net/pos-28.2E.php.

    What channel is missing so i can check mine.

    Do a non ABM scan on the whole 28.2 and how many channels are found on your scan.

    Did you say what image version is your box on ?

    Post edited by greasepalm on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭whoami1


    I did, yes, it's the latest OpenVix 6.4.010. Looking at that kingofsat.net link made me realise that I'm also missing BBC One London HD from the list of all channels, so it really must be the LNB. I did a full rescan last night, separate from ABM, but don't recall how many channels there were.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,579 ✭✭✭swoofer


    You are not moving from Sky q by any chance? Sky q will pick up sme requencise but not all when used with non sky q boxes. BBC one HD IS on 10818.

    DVB-S2 8PSK, 10818 VERTICAL, SYMBOL RATE 23000, FEC 3/4 

    And if box has 2 cables attached you can check each input using signal finder by toggling between A and B but pause each time, then you can enter a channel thats horizontal use 10773H rest same as above. If you get signal on one and not the other then its lnb. Outputs can fail, is it a quad lnb ie 4 outputs,

    A full scan gets 845 channels.

    If lnb is very old then thats a good start but dish can be slightly off as well/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,488 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    I'm getting some strange problems with the radio stations on 28.2E. If I do am ABM scan they all appear nicely in the listing, under the radio section with their names. But when I play one of them, the name changes to a 4 digit number, I'm guessing the SID, along with 2 or 3 others. Same thing happens to all the channels as I zap through it. If I run ABM again the correct names reappear.

    I don't really use the radio stations much, so don't know if this is a recent thing or not. Possibly it might have to do with some reorganization of frequencies the BBC is doing and the frequencies in ABM are out of date and it's picking up the old ones that are due to be replaced soon. I updated the XML files in ABM before scanning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    @Alun they are in the process of migrating the BBC radio channels to different TPs. It should be sorted in the next day or so.

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121306078/#Comment_121306078



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,486 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    I would still do a new scan to see the number of channels found , much less means issues and make sure F connectors are tight



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,488 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    Thanks, I thought it was something to do with that. I'll check again in a few days.

    By the way, is there any good reason why the radio stations on Astra 28.2E don't show up in radio bouquets generated by ABM, when you press the radio button on the remote, like they do for the Saorview and Astra 19.2E ones?



  • Registered Users Posts: 160 ✭✭redoctober


    Hi guys,


    Just an update to my post a few months ago. I brought the box back to the retailer and they replaced the hard drive under warranty. It actually seemed to be the cable from the internal hard drive which was too short I think and so was a little bit under pressure, therefore losing connection intermittently. Just a heads-up for anyone with similar issues.


    A new issue I have is that I'm not getting any channels when I scan. My signal finder is showing decent signal on both satellite tuners. I run an automatic scan and it shows lots of channels being found but then when I go to EPG the "last scanned" bouquet is empty. Any ideas?


    I'm just missing a few channels that I would like to add. Thanks in advance.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,488 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    That's interesting. I had an issue a few months back where my internal SSD drive stopped working after I'd taken the cover off to take a photograph of the drive location for a post on here :) I did notice the SATA cable was indeed very short and twisted, but I'm sure I tried another longer SATA cable I had lying around and that didn't solve it, so maybe that wasn't the problem at all. It's now in an external USB enclosure and is working fine so I don't want to jinx it any further by taking the cover off again!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,579 ✭✭✭swoofer


    " A new issue I have is that I'm not getting any channels when I scan. My signal finder is showing decent signal on both satellite tuners. I run an automatic scan and it shows lots of channels being found but then when I go to EPG the "last scanned" bouquet is empty. Any ideas?" Yes

    When you do an automatic scan you should get an options menu, clear before scan and so on, for each tuner you have to say yes or no and you may have no against Tuner A but I never use automatic scan as it buggers up ABM and its quite possible you only get a last scanned bouquet when you scan an individual transponder.

    So as you have done an automatic scan go to say BBC1 HD and arrow up and see RED button at bottom of screen All, THAT MEANS if you select it it will show you ALL the channels on the box in Alpha order. However you don't say the image or skin, at the moment mine is Openatv 6.4 and slyk r19 skin.

    If you say the channels you cant get I will show you a better way to get them and not use automatic scan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,386 ✭✭✭MonkieSocks


    They might already be there but not on your channel list.

    Try This.

    Press the TV Button on your remote control

    Press the Yellow Button for Providers

    Select BSkyB

    Using the side arrows either side of the OK button on your remote control, scroll up or down to the channel you are missing.

    When you have found and it is highlighted ( make sure there is a sort of brown colour after it to ensure it transmitting )

    Press Menu and you will see a list of options

    Select Add To Bouquets

    Select all Channels

    Your missing channels will be now be on the bottom of your channel list and epg grid list

    If the above dosen't work the frequency for BBC1 London and BBC 4 are the same below

    Menu--setup--tuners and scanners-- manual scan

    Type of scan should be User Defined Scan

    Enter the info in the above attachment and search

    When your channels are found, exit back to tv.

    THEN press the TV BUTTON on your remote control and scroll down to Last Scanned folder

    Your missing channels should be stored there.

    Scroll to the channel you wish to add to your channel list

    Press Menu and you will see a list of options

    Select Add To Bouquets

    Select all Channels

    Your missing channels will be now be on the bottom of your channel list and epg grid list

    =(:-) Me? I know who I am. I'm a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude (-:)=



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,474 ✭✭✭corcaigh07


    If anyone is in the market for a box, I have an ad up for mine on adverts.

    http://www.adverts.ie/32690211



  • Registered Users Posts: 160 ✭✭redoctober


    Thanks. I haven't had a chance to follow up on this yet. Will do and report back



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,486 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    Why are you going to EPG as i go to Bouquets to find my channels .

    Have you setup your EPG to save to HDD or USB.

    Was it an Automatic Scan under AutoBouquetsMaker to give you your lists.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 362 ✭✭egal


    Is there a way to delete multiple recordings in one fell swoop or do they have to be deleted individually one by one?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,486 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    I just delete one at a time so i dont go oops for safety.

    Settings might have empty trash after so many days but just never done it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,643 ✭✭✭wassie


    Also if the recordings are contained inside a single folder, you can simply delete that folder.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 359 ✭✭Bellie1


    Deleted a few series from Timer but still recorded them . It looked like they were gone from Timer but later when go back in, there they are again. Any ideas? Openvix with blueHD skin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,486 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    What sort of timer was it recorded on Auto Timer will need to be deleted of the ones you dont want anymore



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,488 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    Note also that if you record lots of series, it's possible to automatically group them together into collections, a kind of "virtual" folder, so they don't clutter the listing.

    Go into the File List, hit Menu, Settings and set "Enable automatic collections" to On. It won't affect any existing recordings but will affect future ones.

    You can also set up physical folders and book marks but that's a bit more involved, and you'll have to repeat the procedure for every new series you set to record. Apart from the fact that the recordings are now in physical folders, it doesn't really have any advantages that I can see.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,488 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    Well it looks like they've finally got their act together, and all the BBC radio channels are now in the right place with correct channel names etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 359 ✭✭Bellie1


    Autotimer. Am I better to delete using EPG or in Timers? Have been using Timers to delete items but doesn't always work



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    To delete a timer, when you press the MENU button choose TIMERS then TIMERS or AUTOTIMERS as required and delete from there using the appropriate coloured button. Normal timers are one-off events but autotimers repeat until you change/delete them. An autotimer will creat a new entry under timers if it has found a match. Perhaps that is why you deleted one instance of a timer but it came back again because the autotimer was still in place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 359 ✭✭Bellie1


    Ah ok, so autotimer programs are stored separately. I was just using the Timers button on the remote. Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,488 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    By the way, if you long press the Timer button you'll get into the Autotimers list. Saves going through the menus.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 359 ✭✭Bellie1




  • Registered Users Posts: 67 ✭✭Iceman99


    Hi All,

    Using the Zgemma h7s box can it record one satalite channel while watching another. I can't get mine to do.


    TIA



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    Yes provided it has 2 working satellite connections, 1 for watching while the other is recording.



  • Registered Users Posts: 67 ✭✭Iceman99


    Thanks Gerry, by that I assume you mean two cables coming from the dish as per sky plus?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,486 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    Yes same as sky + boxes



  • Registered Users Posts: 67 ✭✭Iceman99


    The dish I have did have two cables coming in for sky plus back in the day, That extra cable was taken by the guy who moved the dish before I had a zgemma h7s box. But if I had the extra cable coming in I don't see a port for it on the box.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,579 ✭✭✭swoofer


    Look at the socket for the aerial and to the left of that you will see 2 connections that take screw ins, unless your box is not a zgemma, look closely and it says Tuner A/B

    underneath.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,579 ✭✭✭swoofer


    The best ones to use are Sky UK and SAORVIEW, Freeview is the UK Aerial service so you must be near a reception area. I use London HD and FTA only. That should get the lot but I also hide sections like ADULT to make it more manageable.

    I never use FREESAT as it misses channels

    This is on Openvix 6.4



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow




  • Registered Users Posts: 67 ✭✭Iceman99


    Ah yes thanks I found it. I really wish I had left that extra cable in place it's gonna be awkward as he'll to run again. Back when the dude moved the dish I only had a basic freesat box.



  • Registered Users Posts: 67 ✭✭Iceman99


    Thanks Gerry, can you pause and rewind live tv as you could with sky plus? I have hooked up another cable between dish and box and I can watch one satellite channel while watching another, I thought I could pause and rewind live TV



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,579 ✭✭✭swoofer


    I think you are on Openvix and yes you can pause and rewind but as per usual you may have to tweak the settings. The pause button is below the green button and by default it should work. I assume you have a HDD installed. Try that first and just to note when you go to another channel you will get a few options.

    To set it up go menu setup recordings etc, just click and follow the guide. To have a rewind you need timeshift enabled

    I dont use it very much but others who do will be along to say more. Make sure your 2 tuners are configured as simple single astra 28east.



  • Registered Users Posts: 67 ✭✭Iceman99


    I have a hdd and I can pause live TV, but I can't seem to rewind unless it's after I have paused for a while. I thought I could maybe just rewind a live broadcast.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,488 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    Timeshifting is set by default to only start once you've paused once. You can set it to always start after a certain delay though.

    Menu, Setup, Recordings , Playback and Timeshift, Timeshift

    Automatically start timeshift after ...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    As I understand it there are two options for pause/rewind of live TV. IMO the simpler and better option is the default one.

    This is activated by pressing the pause button if for example your phone rings. Pressing pause again will continue on from where you paused. You can rewind or forward but only from the moment you first hit pause. When finished you simply press stop. The box will ask if you want to keep the bits it has recorded.

    The other option is Timeshift. This begins recording a channel as soon as you switch on that channel. Then if something happens you can rewind to see a part again. The downside of this is that the box is recording continuously while you are watching. This greatly increases wear and tear on the HDD or SSD. This option is not enabled by default but can be configured as Alun mentioned above.

    You can not rewind to the start of a show if the box wasn't watching it already. Again, as I understand it, services like Sky that allow you to go back to the start even if you weren't watching use online players to access the missed bits. Not being a Sky victim customer, I am open to correction on this.😉



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,488 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    I wouldn't worry too much about wearing out an SSD by using it as a timeshift buffer. It was a concern when they first came out, but as an example the Samsung 870 EVO I'm using has a TBW rating (TeraBytes Written) of 600. Which means you can write 600TB to it until it's likely to start to degrade.

    Assuming HD broadcast TV transmits at very roughly 0.5 MB/s on average, 600 TB (600,000,000 MB) would equate to

    600,000,000 / 60 / 60 / 24 / 365 / 0.5 = 38 years of continuous TV watching :) There's filesystem overheads to take into account as well, of course, but you get the picture!

    An HDD is another matter of course.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,969 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Does anyone find if they're away from the box and set a timer recording it records perfectly but if they actually try to use the box and watch another channel while a timer records it will just leave you with a full size corrupted file? Any fix for this?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,486 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    My H7S only has 1 sat feed and 1 Saorview and works , wonder what issues do you have and not using Sky Q lnb?

    What image are you using ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,486 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    Do you have 2 sat feeds with a working signal?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,486 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    No , have you got a working aerial and what area is it set to as I use 3 rock for Saorview.

    Choosing wrong area screws up wrong info



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,486 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    So box works in one room but not other room would suggest cable issue.

    Does ABM run okay in other room with no issues ?

    But throws up errors in this room . Redo connection in that room.

    Sat will only give sat channels so should have no bearing on Saorview.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,969 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    No, half the channels disappear when its recording, it was good for Saorview/Sat clashes though or I thought it was until this issue.

    Doesnt really matter anything I miss I can just download and it will show up in Plex later, annoying though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    Half the channels disappear when recording because the tuner is busy and unable to access the other frequency bands. That is why it is normally used with two satellite feeds.

    Make sure that the unused tuner is set as "Disabled" in SETUP>TUNERS & SCANNING>TUNER SETUP> TUNER A or B whichever has no cable. This could be why ABM is failing.

    @Thargor @[Deleted User] Satellite TV uses 4 frequency bands, low horizontal, low vertical, high horizontal and high vertical. The box sends a command signal up to the LNB on the dish to select which band it is watching. When you only have one satellite connection, the box will only be able to select one frequency band at a time. This is why some channels "disappear" while watching or recording another. If you set a recording on one frequency band while you are watching another, the recording will fail and you get an empty file.

    If you have the disconnected tuner set as "disabled" the box should alert you to the conflict if it needs to record as it then knows that Tuner B is not available.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,579 ✭✭✭swoofer


    To use the box correctly you need 2 sat cables. Using one cable you need cable connected to tuner A and B set to equal TUNER A. You should run another cable for optimum performance. The one tuner when recording makes that tuner busy and you can only watch channels that are on same transponder. thats why all the other channels are greyed out. There is also a setting in recordings where you assign the tuner to be used for recording and that will lock it. For SAORVIEW the same will apply but SAORVIEW has 2 muxes so if the channel you are recording is on Mux 1 you cant view or record a channel on mux 2 but you can record all the channels on each mux in one go but only one mux.

    thats why sky has 2 cables = 2 sat tuners = record one watch another or record 2 and watch a recording.

    Say how you have the tuners configured.

    @ breezy, say the exact version of openvix eg 6.4.0.11 what skin are you using and what region are you using in abm? You will have to deletet all the bouquets and start again. And set ABM up correctly.

    Post edited by swoofer on


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