Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

The point was that nobody can get an appointment for weeks, locals, asylum seekers or medical card holders, because it’s a situation which existed long before any increase in asylum seekers!

That particular dentist won’t be making anything from medical cards anyway because he doesn’t take medical cards. Another dentist in the town does. There’s not many dentists or GPs are willing to take medical cards any more anyway because they’re left waiting for payment from the State that simply don’t cover their costs:

According to the HSE, the number of dentists holding Dental Treatment Services Scheme (DTSS) contracts is now 1,082. However figures from the start of this year show just 660 dentists across the country were actively treating medical card patients.

The number of dentists holding DTSS contracts has fallen from 1,660 in 2017.

“What that means is that the eligible number of patients has remained the same but the number of dentists available to provide the care has halved,” Hourihan said.

“The consequence of that is that it’s more difficult for people to get an appointment to see a dentist.

https://www.thejournal.ie/dentists-medical-card-2-5785725-Jun2022/

But increasing the numbers over night by hundreds won't have an effect,

Seriously do you think people are actually that gullible to believe that,

The problem was already there, just like the schools who don't have the resources for children who don't speak English or arrive here with special needs ,

But nothing to see here folks move along now

per capita they still pollute less than we do, most of china's industry is to provide cheap crap to rich countries like ireland

They have 100s of millions of cars because they have a bigger population than us, they have something like 180 car owners per 1000 people there. Most people there get around by public transport. Honestly the China thing is like "small, far away" from Father Ted with you people.

So why are we being pushed to give up our cars for bicycles but yet china has 319 million cars , Emmon loves China but hates his own .....

Wonder when he gets his ideas

i mean if you can't figure that out for yourself, if you can't figure out why we can't just keep focusing on planning everything around private car ownership, you're just not smart enough to discuss these things

It won’t have an effect. Whether anyone believes that or not is entirely their own business, but those facts were established long before there was ever any increase in asylum seekers. Those people who are trying to claim asylum seekers are adding any additional pressure are doing so only to serve their own interests. That’s why their rhetoric isn’t actually resonating with the general public, precisely because people aren’t that gullible.

I’ve never said there’s nothing to see here, people were seeing the issues long before a small cohort latched onto the issues in order to promote their own interests.

Yeah they leave,how do you they leave oh because there not here ,who says they are not here???,

because .....

There not .....

This has actually been discussed exactly like this .....

Another poster claimed his dad works in the Aer Corp and they fly the Deportation flights hence why he knows that they actually leave.......

When people get to the stage of having a deportation order against them, they have nothing to lose, you will essentially be barred from getting a visa anywhere else because it will be seen as a risk to that country that you'll apply for asylum there. We should offer an alternative to people and say to them if you provide us with evidence that you have left the State within a week we will not issue a deportation decision against you.

The State should also withdraw any support (accommodation, allowance etc.) from people who have had a negative decision for IP and subsidary protection, we shouldn't be subsidising living costs for people who have had negative decisions against them we have obligations and I believe we should fulfil those obligations but once multiple negative decisions have been issued, its not the States obligation.

Leave to remain should only be granted where someone can prove that they can support themselves and their families independently without State support. Any petition received from a community that wants someone to be granted leave to remain should have a guarantor who will assume the financial obligation to support the person/persons if they can't support themselves or that the community will have raised the average cost of support for a period of 5 years and gift that to the State.

That was quite the script flip

As script flips go, while claiming that a rise of 40% in rejected claims for asylum being deported from Denmark, that’s ignoring the fact that the approval rates for applicants seeking asylum has risen to 74%:

The success rate (recognition rate) from Immigration Service (first instance) has moved up and down a lot during recent years. In 2015 it reached a record high of 85%, in 2020 it dropped to 44%, and in 2021 it was 59%.

During the first 9 months of 2023, 74% of the applicants were granted asylum. However, the percentage includes both newcomers and people who already had a residence permit but applied for asylum later. They are called 'remotely registered' and form around 40% of the applicants. Out of the 1,020 who were granted asylum, the municipalities have only received 409 new refugees (besides Ukrainians). During the same period, 40 refugees have had their permits revoked.

http://refugees.dk/en/facts/numbers-and-statistics/what-are-the-chances-of-being-granted-asylum/

We really should adopt the Danish model , rather than this free for all while trying to blame the far right and misinformation

No .

Sure I read that they don't deport anyone it's like the UK apparently,,,,,

Not

Let's look at the UK ,no ..

So as of July 2023 there was only 180 applications for asylum in Denmark,but yet somehow in 2023 they Deported 200 ...

This post has a touch of the old casual racism thrown in.

Classy.