Room to Improve (v2)

From my understanding the house would have been registered with the Tipperary County Council for The Local Property Tax as it was lived in , I assume, up to shortly before it went to market. Judging by the photos which accompanied the advertising of the house for sale, the pre work photos shown in the programme, the engineers report the couple got re derelict/ condemned roof/ etc or otherwise and the price paid for it I DOUBT VERY MUCH THAT THE HOUSE WAS EXEMPT FROM PAYING THE LOCAL PROPERTY TAX.

Therefor the conclusion is , based on the above that if the owner was paying the local LPT all along then there is ABSOLUTLY no argument as to whether the house was derive t or not

The regs around 'guarding' on a stairs would seem to me to have been complied with. I would need to watch the programme again to be certain, but I have been involved in jobs were similar are fully compliant and nothing about what I seen screamed not compliant.

The supplier list mentions heat pumps.

he should probably watch grand designs they have more of that info

It is your opinion he hasn't done the above. You have been corrected multiple times on your Miss Marplish detective work but you still insist on claiming that any of the above non compliance is proven. It hasn't been.

p.s. I have a sunken living room off my kitchen...I have steps up into my house without a handrail. All fully certified and compliant.

Your 'who will think of the elderly' sensationalism is just cringe to be honest.

Maybe if you didn't omit the relevant parts (In bold) of the regs you quoted you'd have some credibility?

Steps anywhere can be tripped on, handrail or not. A rug could be tripped on.

Maybe they haven't got around to putting up a handrail...it's a pretty churlish/cringe thing to be diverting to because you cannot hang them on the other stuff TBH.

That escalated quickly.

You are now alleging corruption on a Haughey scale?

I'm out. Carry on. 😁😁

This discussion has nothing to do with Ben Dunne.

I'm telling you that meetings like the Dermot Bannon one happen all the time.

In Government buildings, in Department offices etc. etc.

I'm basing that statement on years of personal experience.

RTE is a public service broadcaster. It’s on this that it gets a fairly hearty annual subvention of tax payers money. All programmes can be presented in an entertaining way but this RTI programme was NOT in the same category as a PAt Shortt or Mrs Brown’s Boys presentation. My understanding was that the current run of RTI programme was to ‘MAJOR’ on highlighting the grants available for renovations in some cases and bringing derilect houses back onto the market - in other words supporting an aspect of gov policy.

but what a mess we have been subjected to - UNLESS Dermot COMES BACK AND EXPLAINS HIMSELF

I never said they don't happen. I have dealing with several Departments, TDs etc

Thats why I know of the difficulties of getting information and/or decisions out of them. The more people you know the easier it comes. Especially over time as people you know get promoted up the ranks and/or you bump into them socially when out and about.

I'm no fan of Darragh O'Brien's but to a department wanting to get information out there, Dermot Bannon (and his reach) is hardly an 'average' architect.

He is using his position as an RTE 'Talent' to work the system.

Are you saying he used the meeting to get grants the couple were not entitled to and the Minister and Department facilitated this 'working of the system'?

Ok, it was a 'part' of getting the information out there.* A valuable part as RTI has a big following. The only people who seem to be confused are those who, despite the definitions being pointed out several times, insist on using their own definitions of the terms/criteria and those who are suffering from the belief they can diagnose structural issues from photographs.

*Do I seriously need to explain this?

So he's a 'celeb' now? A while ago he was a professional who should be explaining every dot and dash of detailed regulations to de ordinary people in an hour long show branded as entertainment. 😁

It's not special treatment holding a meeting with someone which might be mutually beneficial.

I'm not a celeb and lots of doors opened to me.

QED if you /were a minister, minister of state , senior civil servant, somebody of importance, a very wealthy person, etc, etc..

AND , by the way, if any one of the boardies here were in Dermot’s shoes and was going to meet the minister for housing what would be your agenda/discussion points - knowing what we now know about the ‘ evidence presented’ to us so far. If I was in his shoes I would be trying to have the regs around the derilect / unoccupied rules a bit more relaxed

I know several in a similar position to you. Were you able to avail of the vacant or derelict home grant?

We are all entitled to voice our opinions on here , IN PRINCIPAL. The majority of us can ignore those trolling, making irrelevant remarks, being nasty , etc. I think the answer to your question will be settled by the county Council or/and SEAI taking the grant issue up if the couple have received the grant

What?

Are we being taken for ejits?.The current series was to major/highlight the current grants available. Secondly , the first thought on Bannon’s mind when meeting the ‘clients ‘ for the first time would be to find out the budget they have in mind and what do they want done for that budget. He would then get established /clarified if it is net of grant. DB would , at that stage, have known what grants the project would be eligible for - such information/ knowledge on it is NOT ROCkET SCIENCE. DB now knows the total budget available and come back with suggested plans accordingly. D , being a sharp cookie - must be , based on having dearth with numerous clients - would have a fair idea if there is more money there that the clients could come up with. Lo and behold the husband got promotion during the build which meant an extra €20,000 a year.

it will be of interest if the ‘ case ‘ is objectively examined and we find out that the whole project has been found to by ‘ right and correct’