Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

They've been promising the prefabs for the last 18 months but don't seem too pushed about actually getting them.

Even at that they are just a short term solution. We still have the people already here to accomodate, with more arriving every week. Not to mention those already on housing lists, record homeless and those stuck living on friends couches or with parents.

I don't see how we are going to be able to build enough to keep up with current demand, let alone increasing demand.

Unless we start slapping up towers like the ones that were in Ballymun all over the place.

Yeah.

Going on 2 days now!

You feel exactly how most of us feel.

Thats not the nonsense... Its blaming them that is.

They didn't cause the problem.

Watch Darragh O'Brien saying what a good job he is doing in the Dáil today.. These are the people to direct your ire at.

Or the successive ministers for Health, And yes the clueless minister RoG.

By all means protest, but outside the Dail and peacefully ffs or it is a waste of energy.

For those who say that doesn't work.. It does.

Many a situation saved /reversed through people power and not a punch thrown!

You say that to dismiss me, as you have done before. If you can't read a reply that is not personal but takes apart your argument , and say that someone is 'lecturing or hectoring ' I do feel for you.

I have no interest in discussing it further, with you tbh if that is the level of your reply

I have said what I think of your post, which isn't much at this stage and I have been pretty clear.

We disagree fundamentally.

Good day.

Is that the first census form you have seen?

If you go back through the censuses /censi?.. Rooms and size of house dwelling is recorded.

Look at 1901, 1911...

There you have it... "anyone agin me is for the government! "

Could have written ' de gubbernint' but don't want to be accused of being a member of any particular ' cohort'!

As will probably happen anyhow 😁

You have me on ignore because I called you out - and I believe rightfully so.

This is a forum "a meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged."

Not where one person comes in, claims to know what a county speaks for, then puts people they disagree with on ignore when they are rightfully called out.

Have. But there are lots of people who don't as well and are not going on the radio.Targeted or private apps, meetings.

I don't know if you read my post a few days ago about Roscrea which triggered yer man spamming me..

I agree that the people of Roscrea in particular had a right to protest, ( they have taken mote than the rest of Tipp) but a lot of people I know were and are against the type of protest (confrontational, with some video-ing nasties in the mix).

Most people that I know spoke with Lowry and some of the councillors there and while it doesn't get them 15 mins of fame/notoriety, it has had an effect.

Of course the usual suspects take credit no matter what has been going on in the background.

Well tbh, anybody I have spoken to agrees with the protestors but didn't like seeing kids and mothers having to go through that. The government knew a crowd were there and they still brought in the women and children. There was only a few asylum seekers so the government could easily have put them up in commercial hotel until the protest was resolved. Undesirables at all these protests, not the fault of roscrea people. As you said they have 600 people. Being accommodated already. They had no choice but to say enough is enough. Clowns like aodhan o riordan ,brid smith and other dublin politicsns trying to paint ordinary decent folk as nazis and kkk members. Funfact, I have never met any tipp person who gives a crap what a dublin politican said.

Nobody is blaming refugees.

One way or the other people are pointing out that the numbers coming in are exposing an existing issue. If you see that as blaming the refugees I don't know what to say to you.

It's an existing issue that the government has shown neither the willingness nor capacity to address for a long time. Given that, people simply want the government to stop making the problem worse while they continue to bullshit us with false promises.

It weirdly feels like we're in an abusive relationship where the government don't listen to us, continually **** us over, and then attempt to sweet talk us back with false promises.

Not rightfully.

People should not have to post identifying factors or anything else to appease another poster who is obviously trying to catch them out.

Its not civil to continue to spam a poster bickering about an issue that is not relevant to anyone else, over 4 DAYS of discussion!

I put you on ignore after answering a few times that day, and you still kept posting.

You have no 'gotcha'.. Accept it and move on and leave me out of your frustration.

We will leave it there then, I do apologize if it appears uncivil it is not the intention, the intention is to get a true feeling on the ground.

May I engage you on future points of discussion?

"By all means protest, but outside the Dail and peacefully ffs or it is a waste of energy."

This just isn't a credible claim.

Burn down a building slated to be used for asylum seekers and it won't be used. (for the record I don't endorse this)

Protest outside a building slated to be used for asylum seekers and you'll get women and children instead of single men and as seen in Roscrea possibly further concessions.

Protest outside the Dail and more than likely nothing will happen. Your protest will be dismissed as far-right/anti-immigration/racist. You'll have to deal with a lot more actual anti-immigration protesters which will make you protest look even worse. The media will ignore you or paint you in a bad light.

There's too much of a disconnect between political parties and the electorate on this issue for a small scale protest outside the Dail to be effective.

NLM, there are so many instances of folk 'blaming refugees ' here and on other threads.

Its disingenuous of you to ignore my previous posts saying the situation is highlighting all these issues.

I totally agree about the government.

Listening to Darragh O Brien gaslighting the Oireachrais was chilling!