Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

Think I might have a sick stomach reading some of the fake altruistic shite on here too. Can ya help. Might need some motilium or something.

I'm hardly going to get the Danish PM on the forums. 😂 in the first 9 months of 2023 there were 800 new applications for asylum in Denmark. So much for that 500 person cap. 😂😂

And? I thought they were capping new applications at 500 per year. Is 800 less than 500 now?

That figure is applications and how many will get refugee status .The number is a lot less than Ireland for IPO applicants and shows it could be reduced significantly in Ireland .You made your silly point big victory.

Do stop going on and on .

Yes rte peddle misinformation like annasopra did on this thread about fethard.

Been away from Boards most of the last few days but I read this post and had a look at their website this morning.

What they're advocating in their policies is pretty much common sense and putting Ireland and her people first - something that the NGOs and EU sycophants will tell you is a dirty concept, but which is in fact essential for a small island nation (overly) dependent on FDI like ourselves.

I think they need to flesh out these proposals a bit more (the easily understood problem/solution format is great but they need detail on how it'll be funded/costings and while the basics of their immigration policy is exactly what we need, they are still suggesting the "self deportation" approach for failed applicants which I think is a mistake - failed AS should be returned to collect their belongings and escorted to the border/airport by Gardai or an equivalent of the US ICE agency), but they seem to be on the right track in my view - particularly regarding border controls and interaction with the EU - and it's great to see a real alternative gaining some traction.

My only other point would be the party name - a natural result of its origin but they should consider some way to better highlight that it's not just farmers and farming interests they're representing.

One to watch though for sure because it's obvious that FF, FG and SF aren't going to change course on immigration issues and the Greens are only concerned about pushing their nonsense ideologies regardless of anything else.

Edited to add...

Listened back to the interview on Highland and it's very clear that on immigration they are talking about using and strengthening the border controls and enforcement rather than a full closure. Despite attempts by the host to play the emotive "poor refugees" and "war" cards the guest held his own well and pulled him up rightly when the host tried to put words in his mouth.

Both guests in this piece came across very well I thought

Link is here for any interested :

(starts at about 5:15 in) 

Isn't this what most people want though for the citizens of the Country to be put first and for a robust immigration system and not the free for all system we have at the moment? If you listen to most folks and not the extremes on both sides this is what we want, there is no problem with people coming here to work who have gone through the necessary hoops to obtain a visa to come here to work. They are very much welcome and they are here to work, earn money, pay taxes and send some home and I bet if you ask these people they will be unhappy about what they are seeing as they don't want to be lumped in with those coming without documentation. Also I see no comments from these folks that have jumped through the hoops to get a visa on how they feel about these undocumented folks comin here. I was down my local club last night were we have members from Poland, Lithuania, Croatia and Romania to name but a few and talking with them about the current situation and they are annoyed, they are annoyed a people including them as we have seen in this thread with those arriving without documentation. they are annoyed that these people are being giving accommodation and all sorts of help of which none was given to them, they had to come to with what they have and work for what they got. Before someone spouts off but the Irish have gone everywhere, we have but we have worked hard wherever we have gone to contribute to that country we have gone too.

So stop this nonsense of lumping everyone in together that is just dishonest and unfair on those people and it does your argument no favours.

Who me? I think you read that wrong. I am giving out about the people lumping all immigrants be they legal of illegal. Just look at the posts on this thread going on about the foreign nurse in the hospital or the person that served them in the coffee shop, they are the ones putting everyone in the same bracket. Me I have no problem with anyone coming here legally and going through the necessary requirements to get a visa and coming here and starting a new life.

I am pretty angry that you have got that from my post when you all you have to do is read some of the posts on here.

Apology accepted.

Just to be clear there is nothing wrong with people coming here legally to work and contribute, it is wrong to lump those people in with those who are coming here without documentation just to try further their argument.

Yes we need people coming here to work and fill roles. I have worked in MNC's and they are vital, the small Irish company I am with now is 50/50 between Irish and other nationalities and they are definitely needed.

When has Ireland never taken in asylum seekers?

I feel sorry for you.

An interesting article coming out of Davos of the rifts forming between these "economist idealogues" and the likes of Lagarde.

https://www.euractiv.com/section/economy-jobs/news/a-tribal-clique-lagarde-denounces-economists-at-davos/

Its clear that our hapless goverment have so giddily embraced the modelling with our immigration policies.

Recent kite flying from Varadker is the realisation that the models were wrong, inflation is still climbing, cost of living is spiralling and we now have social unrest the likes of this country has never seen before.

Remember when we were told there was no such thing as the Lagos express by the government and it was all a far right conspiracy theory, heavily pregnant women weren't arriving in Dublin in labour and having to be taking straight to the Coombe or holles St to give birth at a time when figures arriving from Nigeria alone was in the 15-20,000 + a year,

That's an interesting video.

The boys up there (on either side) don't play around. It hasn't been that long since there was a very different environment up North.

Those lads in the video would be advised to take that warning seriously if indeed they have been approaching young children as suggested.