Gangland Shootings part 4 - Read OP before posting - updated 30/12/23

Wear the face off the fat red mammy tho.

Arguably the best line I've ever read on this forum.

Out of curiosity, what does she look like? Never seen her personally

It was Chester Beatty in the Wild Heather Pub north inner city back around 1997 who was shot 3 times and chased the gunman who kept shooting but dropped his gun having been hit with a stool

Chester picked up the gun and continued the chase down the stairs of the pub but collapsed and died at the scene

similar did happen in the Blue Lion when I gunman tried to shoot Derek Hutch snr back in 1998 and a pub goer threw a stool at him, hutch wasn’t injured and the gunman only discharged one round into the ceiling but managed to leave the scene on a motorbike and obtained his firearm

Why did the 2-man hit team (fox murder) in Belfast enter the social club instead of waiting outside?

Ya suppos it's obvious they know what they're doing and has a spotter inside

Other similar hits I think they have someone on the door but not here

Also seemed like maybe they emptied their weapons which would be risky if they actually did that

I remember meeting this guy in a nightclub and he was selling pills with the ok from the security ..

He was massive..(seemed well over 6 ft)

I'd say maybe 2 weeks later he was on front page of the Sunday world after getting shot.. think they named a library after him(that's a joke)

That's the one yeah... he had two older women holding stuff for him.. he was interested in me as I hadn't a dub accent.. i actually bumped into him upstairs ( litterly) and we chatted for a while... we drove 160 miles round trip that night ..

Great club. Great times.

Chester was big into selling E’s only problem was he wasn’t fond of paying his suppliers which contributed to his death.

Theres a mad story about the fella who was to go on trial for his murder, the night before the trial was to take place he himself was shot dead in the city centre

I think his name was comerford, the lad that shot him claimed at his trial that comerford asked him to give him a flesh wound with a shotgun blast to delay the trial but he hit an artery and he died in a pissy laneway

Chester beatty ran a 24hr snooker hall at the back of o connell street. We used to go there after the clubs. Some wild nights. Garda hammering fcuk out of the door trying to get in and everyone inside laughing at them.

He was riding a 16 year old young one aswell. Not that anyone was going to pull him up on it.

Is there any 24hr spots for anything in Dublin City these days? Seems to be **** all now. Thought with the 6am license these days there would be more.

Stephen Carson got hit first, after leaving Belfast for a while

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Two cousins from west Belfast who murdered father-of-two Stephen Carson in a "cold-blooded" execution were told they will spend the next 20 years in jail before they are considered eligible for release.

Michael 'Spud' Smith, 40, and David 'Dee Dee' Smith, 35 - both with addresses in Monagh Drive - shook hands in the dock of Belfast Crown Court after Judge Geoffrey Miller QC handed each of them a minimum 20-year sentence.

The pair were convicted last month by a jury of murdering Mr Carson, who died after he was shot in the head in the downstairs bathroom of his Walmer Street home on the evening of 25th February 2016.

Also present when he was murdered were his fiancee Naomi Smyth and nine-year old son.

During today's sentence it emerged that Mr Carson's son - who is now 11 - has been diagnosed with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.

During the incident, the then nine-year-old was threatened at gunpoint and was pepper-sprayed.

'Gangland execution'

Judge Miller described Mr Smith's murder as "an execution with chilling and clinical efficiency", and said: "I am in no doubt it has characteristics akin to a gangland execution."

It was the Crown's case that while Michael Smith was the gunman who fired a single shot from a sawn-off shotgun through a bathroom door which killed Mr Carson, David Smith stayed in the living room where he "subdued" Mr Carson's son and fiancee.

This was a cold-blooded, pre-planned murder, set in the context of a long-running vendetta against the deceased and his family.

Judge Miller

Judge Miller said they travelled from west Belfast to the Ormeau Road area "with one thought and intention in mind - namely to kill Mr Carson."

The court heard Michael Smith - who was also found guilty of possessing a sawn-off shotgun with intent to commit murder - had 168 previous convictions, compared to David Smith's 28.

Also jailed was today for this role in the aftermath of the murder was a third cousin - Francis Smith - who was handed seven-and-a-half year sentence for four offences. Despite his denials, the 42-year old, from Glenmurray Court in Belfast, was sentenced for charges including assisting offenders, and for allowing the murder weapon and ammunition to be stored in his flat.

During the trial, it was the Crown's case that the motive for Mr Carson's murder dated back to a violent incident in Turf Lodge in 2010, when Michael Smith sustained a significant wound to his arm.

Involved in this altercation were Mr Carson, Kieran McManus and a third man. Mr McManus, 26, was shot dead outside a Domino's Pizza in west Belfast in March 2013, while Mr Carson was shot in his home in the Ormeau area of Belfast in three years later.

The trial also heard that in the days prior to being murdered, Mr Carson had expressed concerns after he saw David Smith in the Ormeau area of Belfast.

Harrowing evidence

The jury also heard harrowing evidence from Mr Carson's fiancee, son and mother, as well as listening to a 999 call made by Mr Carson to police.

Hiding in the downstairs bathroom, Mr Carson could be heard begging the police to send officers to his home before he was shot through the door.

Prior to passing his sentence, Judge Miller heard Crown barrister Neil Connor QC refer to the killing as "assassination carried out with a clear intention to kill".

Mr Connor said that on the night in question, three men "forced their way" into Mr Carson's home and murdered him in the presence of his partner and son, whilst he was on the phone "summoning help from the police."

Regarding Francis Smith, Mr Connor said he was guilty of assisting his co-accused in the aftermath of the murder by not only providing them with shelter, but also looking after the murder weapon and ammunition.

Defence barrister Tim Moloney QC, representing David Smith, told the court he didn't agree with the Crown’s claims of an assassination. Instead, he branded the killing as "not a particularly professional exercise" which was set in a gangland context.

Mr Moloney said his client "has suffered very badly with drug addiction throughout his adult life" and has "enduring psychological problems" which led to a chaotic lifestyle.

Michael Smith's barrister Frank O'Donoghue QC said this client did not engage with probation ahead of today's sentencing as he is appealing his conviction.

He also disagreed that the murder was an assassination or contract killing, saying that cased on the Crown case "this was anything but professional ... it was wholly amateurish."

Eilis McDermott QC, representing Francis Smith, spoke of her client's former alcohol intake of up to 100 units a week, but said "clearly and happily, that is no longer the case."

The defence barrister also said that as her client was facing a significant period in prison, he has plans to "improve his situation" and intends to undertake an Open University degree.

After Judge Miller passed his sentence, Michael and David shook hands.

They turned to the public gallery, waved and gave the thumbs up, to which someone shouted "upwards and onwards."

Both men will have to serve a minimum of 20 years before they are considered eligible for release by the Paroles Commission, while Francis Smith will serve half his sentence in prison, with the remaining 45 months on licence when he is released" "

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Anyone got the full article, I'm out of free articles on the Indo website.

NM, the World has most of it.

Chester was a ladies man right enough.

Reputed to have had a "Prince Albert".

A Prince Albert is a piercing, a bar through the knob. Apparently invented to keep the dick tight under trousers.

Fcuk that.

Any initials for these tarmacers? Heard a few names thrown around but from different crowds that wouldn't even know each other so dunno who exactly it is. Some shite talked around the whack.

Mac Adam is heavy in the game