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The Traitors

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,598 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I think it's more just a case of the traitors are all playing their own games, but also don't want to be seen as a group or voting the same way unless it's the way most other people are voting. If they seem too much like a group, then if the faithfuls do vote one of the traitors out all eyes would be on who they've been aligned with. Plus they want the freedom to side with who other faithfuls say they're voting for that day.

    The best way to play it as a Traitor is so long as the faithfuls are getting things wrong, you just back them up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,560 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    "We had to put her in her place" was a spectacular line. 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,545 ✭✭✭Sono


    Ross will find out that Andrew was not part of the murder of Diane and will take Harry out next week I think, at this stage it’s every man for himself between the traitors,

    Been a brilliant series, the American one is excellent too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88,569 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I think Andrew did mention to Ross he was only recruited a day or two back when Ross joined

    If a Faithful refused to be recruited, are they murdered that night?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,823 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly



    No they're not murdered that night but chances are the next night


    just to add they have a choice, recruit or murder not both - it's the risk they take if they try to recruit



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 292 ✭✭taratee


    Andrew told Ross that he was recruited. Not sure if he told him when. It'd help Andrew massively if he told Ross that he was recruited after Miles was banished. Miles was banished after Diane was murdered.

    Am Yisrael Chai



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,993 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    Saw on BBC last night there is a celebrity traitors coming soon



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 53,174 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    I'm fine with that if it doesn't crossover with the normal version like the US and Australia versions have done. An all celeb version would be interesting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,598 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    The main trouble with celebrity versions is that they all bring external knowledge of each other into the game, so they already know a decent bit about each other or in some cases even know each other personally outside of the show.

    Even just taking "This person is an actor which means they're good at performances and lying" skews people's opinion. Though at least if they're all celebs, they're all on a level playing field to some degree, as opposed to the first US version or the NZ version where some of them are celebs and some are normal people. The US version especially, some of the celebs spent more time trying to just get attention/camera-time rather than playing the game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,598 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Been watching Series 2 of the Australian version. Not finished yet, but this is what comes to mind




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,295 ✭✭✭Kalyke




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,055 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    The stats from around the world is very low for turning down being a traitor. There’s no real incentive to turn it down as you will most likely be murdered next opportunity. It also wouldn’t be a smart idea to tell the others you turned it down as they’d suspect you are bluffing.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 53,174 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88,569 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,797 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Saw Rebecca Vardys name mentioned as someone who might take part in the celebrity version, now if they got Coleen Rooney on it as well that would be some round table meeting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,598 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Finished it last night. Won't talk about the last few episodes in case anyone is on for watching it, but man, most of the Faithfuls just tended to vote for the last name that was said. If the host said "It's time to vote for who you think is a Traitor, and after that we'll go get some KFC", half the faithfuls would have voted to banish Colonel Sanders.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,151 ✭✭✭bren2001


    Harry is safe at the next banishment. The shield ploy saves him but when he walks into breakfast the following day, theres a target on his head for the following banishment. Its blindly obvious he's a traitor then.

    There is 5 faithful's and 3 traitors left. After the one more day, there's 3 faithful's and 3 traitors left. It just takes one of Andrew or Ross to turn on him. The producers could also decide that theres no murder. They could vote out Andrew or Ross tomorrow. Its a needless risk he has taken imo.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 53,174 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    I had to laugh about some of the professions claimed by some of the contestants, talk about completely making a show of yourself. The 'psychotherapist' in particular.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭Trigger Happy


    Yeah, I think Harry is overplaying his hand now. He will stick out like a sore thumb. I suspect Ross will be ready to twist the knife in.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,598 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Saying after being voted out that she could leave with her head held high knowing she made it all the way to the final. Yeah, because you were never any kind of a threat and you were so easily swayed that Sam may as well have had two votes. Never has a sheep sheeped so sheepily. I'm not even sure if she knows who the Traitors are now even after they told her and the show aired about 6 months ago.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,033 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    Just time to watch TRIE's chat about Traitors before 9:-

    The Rest is Entertainment is a good podcast just as long as you accept that Richard Osman loves everything and is very unlikely to criticise his pals in the industry.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,778 ✭✭✭archfi


    Will Harry survive this night!?

    "Not to have a correct political orientation is like not having a soul."

    ~Mao Zedong, 1958



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,033 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    Ross has completely bungled this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,778 ✭✭✭archfi


    LOL

    Harrys still the king of the show, what a player

    Ross has always been thick as pigshyte!

    "Not to have a correct political orientation is like not having a soul."

    ~Mao Zedong, 1958



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,033 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    Bungle again attacking Andrew. Voting for Zack was his only possible out there.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,778 ✭✭✭archfi


    This show just gets better and better

    "Not to have a correct political orientation is like not having a soul."

    ~Mao Zedong, 1958



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,033 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    It has been great but the annoying thing is I can't see how Harry loses this now. They are woeful. Zack right for all the wrong reasons yet again. If things go wrong for Harry then it could be a great couple of episodes but if the likes of Mollie continues to swear by Harry based on facts that should convince her he is a traitor then they are doomed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,778 ✭✭✭archfi


    Jaz, Mollie or Zack for the chop overnight.

    Harry is really good at this, really good

    I always root for a traitor

    "Not to have a correct political orientation is like not having a soul."

    ~Mao Zedong, 1958



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,823 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Oh what a great round table - Ross absolutely threw himself under the bus, but did anyone catch Harry smiling behind his hands


    Still want Harry to win because he has played a blinding game as a traitor



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 53,174 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    I'm not so sure Harry has it locked in yet. If he brings the wrong people to the final he won't win. Jazz still has suspicion on him, Zack will work things out once he's done tunnelling Jasmine. Evie and Mollie won't be banished even though they both trust Harry, if it came down to those three I could see it going pear shaped for him.

    Endgame is very very difficult as a traitor as faithfuls will want to be 100% sure. Someone coming down claiming a shield saved them and still being there in the final... It's not a foregone conclusion.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,823 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly



    I'd be betting on Jaz to be killed, Mollie is too friendly for Harry to get rid of and Zack has suspicion on him already



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,151 ✭✭✭bren2001


    How does he survive tomorrow?

    ”they tried to kill me when I had a shield but didn’t kill me the next day” - there will be a giant spotlight on him. It’s be crazy not to go for him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,108 ✭✭✭appledrop


    Well fair play to Harry, never thought he would pull that off but not a bother to him!

    Now if they have any sense Zac has to be murdered tonight.

    That Evie one better not win anyway, she brings nothing to the programme.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,797 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Ross really crashed and burned tonight, his plan to get revenge for Mammy went out the window.

    I still think Mollie could be a dark horse in this and is not as gullible as Harry thinks she is.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,033 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    Yep makes sense but time after time they have ignored all the warning signs with Harry



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,313 ✭✭✭Hippodrome Song Owl


    It can be explained away as the remaining Traitor (they think there's only one) not being so bothered about Harry - that it was Ross who was looking to get rid of Harry. Maybe pointing to someone who likes having Harry as an ally, or who thinks he'll be banished now the suspicion of him being "elusive" had been put out there. The Faithful are not smart - so easy for them to explain away even blatant evidence.

    The only hope at this stage is that Mollie is not really so bewitched by Harry. If not, and she's actually suspicious and acting to protect herself, then she deserves to win for truly playing the greatest game.

    Otherwise, I hope it is Harry who wins. He is so good at playing dumb. We see the cocky comments so we think he's overplayed his hand. But to the Faithful he really does act so dopey and easily swayed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,151 ✭✭✭bren2001


    They ignored them all with Paul too but the Harry one just seems so obvious. Like it can’t be anything different. Be a crazy bluff from the traitors if he was a faithful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,151 ✭✭✭bren2001


    I don’t think it can be easily explained but he can come up with something plausible. Zack will put it together if they have not killed him, he’s floated the theory already.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,055 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    Harry needs Andrew to survive next banishment. Then he can throw Andrew under the bus during the finale and look like he caught the final traitor and trick the rest



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,545 ✭✭✭Sono


    Absolutely brutal episode tonight and it’s gotten so predictable now, set up for Harry to win it unless there’s a massive twist, really disappointing tonight.

    I really hope Andrew wins it though, he surely knows if he’s to win he has to take Harry out.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,823 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly



    That would be delicious, I don't think Andrew is clever enough to outwit Harry



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,986 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Was Andrew say that Ross "threw me under the bus" a massive gaffe? There's no way you say that if you're a faithful I think

    When Harry doesn't die tonight, there should be huge suspicion on him - I think only Jaz would hone in on it though and I'd expect him to be dead



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,913 ✭✭✭✭Panthro


    Jayyyyysus but what was Ross thinking?! All he had to do was buddy up with Andrew (Andrew doesn't trust Harry) and the two of them could have put the feelers out on Harry being a Traitor.

    Ross went absolutely off the deep end and it backfired spectacularly. Poor faithful, worse traitor.

    Harry has this sown up, stone cold baller!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,151 ✭✭✭bren2001


    You were never getting rid of Harry tonight. Andrew teaming up with Ross would have been awful by Andrew.

    Harry doesn’t have this sown up. He needs to survive tomorrow. Then he needs to throw Andrew under the bus. One slip and he’s gone.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,633 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    Ross was way behind everyone else, all the time, as a faithful. No cop on at all.

    I'm not surprised he made a mess of things, tbh. But I didn't think even he would go so spectacularly by shooting himself firmly in both feet. 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,913 ✭✭✭✭Panthro


    No I'm not saying Ross/Andrew would have gotten Harry out tonight specifically, but had they played their cards right they could have put the feelers out to get Harry out at some point.

    Jaz had eyes on him, as did Zack. Even Mollie took the blinkers off long enough to consider Harry a Traitor. Had the two boys teamed up they could have gotten Harry out at some point.

    But Ross went pure rogue on it. It was a wonderfully bad idea that blew up in his face.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,151 ✭✭✭bren2001


    ah yeah, Ross + Andrew could have won.

    Ross made a balls of today. He was setup by Harry tho. He was in a tricky spot but floundered awfully.

    Andrew needs to throw Harry under the bus.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88,569 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I think Ross should have revealed being Diane's son before he was banished it might have saved him as why allow his mammy "murdered"

    If Jaz is murdered then Jasmine is the only reasonable sensible faithful left, Zack too tunnelled on Jasmine

    As of now I can't see how the traitors won't win and tbh they have played both as if traitors didn't bus on fellow traitors, faithfuls would have got none really



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,778 ✭✭✭archfi


    Yep, he's playing it very well but all it takes is one tiny slip up or a previous realisation to get legs with about 3 faithfuls and he's gone.

    Even though I would always back a traitor to win as they're the only ones playing the game really, it would be spectacular if Mollie or even Evie is using Harry as a shield to get to the final and nab the dosh.

    "Not to have a correct political orientation is like not having a soul."

    ~Mao Zedong, 1958



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,778 ✭✭✭archfi


    "Not to have a correct political orientation is like not having a soul."

    ~Mao Zedong, 1958



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