Harry and Meghan - OP updated with Threadbanned Users 4/5/21

The award he paid $30,000 for? Yeah, seems legit.

This is multi-billionaire country - to be honoured he would have to pay about $1 million. No one would get out of bed for $30,000.

In a room full of billionaires, you think he had to pay for the award? Do you think Angelina Jolie paid for her one?

From what I have seen, it looked like a bunch of really wealthy men having a night out - similar to a men only golf dinner. And they invite a guest speaker ....

Harry can earn about $1 million for giving an after dinner speech in the US.

Is insulting me easier than countering?

I wasn't insulting you I was meeting your sarcasm with sarcasm.

Paints a very different picture to what you are portraying and the negative spin the UK tabloids are always generating. And yes, shots were fired or else that Ranger Colonel is a liar.

A rather telling contrast is that Charles served for 5 years while Harry served for a decade, saw actual combat, and was then snubbed when he asked to lay a wreath at the Cenotaph. Harry was even in the British military for longer than my father, who served for the whole duration of WW2.

Who ultimately yanked him from his second tour is unknowable, but I recall reading somewhere it was suggested it was Charles and that Harry was resentful over it.

And if you want a classic example of the negative spin directed at everything Harry says or does since he got married; he revelaed in his memoire the killing of 25 Taliban and was then decribed as a traitor:

That's 2023, but the same, now betrayed British military, revealed this mostly in 2008:

Double standards in spades. Harry is a whipping boy and the British media are after him and Meghan in the same way they went after Diana, because he can be used in exactly the same way to stir very media profitable interest, in a way Will's can't The public can be encoraged to outrage and condemnation for H&M rennovating Frogmore cottage while Will's and Kate rennovate the whole wing of a bloody palace using public money without a murmur. Then they are shamed into paying for it all - £2.4 million - and then Charles yanks what they paid millions to improve and offers it to another sponging royal tosser, his brother Andrew, without any compensation I ever heard about. It was supposedly a wedding present from the Queen, but looks more like a RF scam. 'Nice job you have done fixing the place up, sorry, if you misunderstood what a present from mumsy entailed, I'm sure Andrew will appreciate your taste and the expense you went to on our behalf.'

What is the conspiracy?

Is that all it costs? Can I have two please Bob.

I agree it is stupid and laughable that Charles and others have those honours. That’s not the issue here though and you know it, yet I’ve not seen you speak out against harry getting a totally undeserved award.

And do you know what, we don't believe its their behaviour. You are berefect that Harry left his British subjects for a biracial American. You thought you owned him.

As for Harry's antics as a young man. You shouldn't have known anything about them in the first place. You didn't need to know what his exam results were as a kid, or what he wore to a private party. He was entitled to some privacy. I don't know of what oafish behaviour (other than what most young fellows get up to), but he did actually grow up.

And this thing about rushing into marriage with Meghan - its not as if they were both 18 year olds and were not formed adults. They were both in their mid- to late 30s and even as it was, Meghan was a geriatric mother. Why do you think they rushed into it. They are together now for 8 years with 2 beautiful children, living in a manshion in California.

As for the show business wedding. Most were guests of the RF. The costs were mainly for security for all these VIPs, European royals etc. and of course for the 1000s of British subjects who turned out to see them. Meghan paid for her own dress by the way.

Meghan and Harry did a couple of tours and were a great success, so I don't think they were 'dabbling'. What makes you say that? Meghan gave speeches and was well prepared for everything she did.

You have no wish for them to get on with their lives in California, so I don't know why you say that. You want Harry home, with his leg between his tail minus Meghan and his biracial children. You want the old, laugh a minute Harry back, don't you?

If you don't think its an accolade, why are you so uptight about it? Being at a table of 8 that 30,000 dollars is not the same as paying 30,000 to get the award. Someone may have paid 30K for a night out with 7 other people. I doubt if Prince Harry did that.

Wow! You're insights into my thoughts border on unbelievably ridiculous - and borderline insulting. How dare you speculate about what I think, or gainsay what I post?

I wasn't berefect - I wasn't even bereft. Is your ill humour getting the best of your typing skills? I couldn't give a flying fig about whether he married a biracial, or whatever colour, race or creed you care to name person. I believe that people should be with people they love and share an equal, supportive relationship. By the way, Meghan presented herself as "Caucasian", if you care to remember, on her Equity card, until it became more useful to declare herself bi-racial. I couldn't care less what she is by virtue of heredity, forebears and genetics. Also, I have never thought I owned him. What utter rubbish! Nobody "owns" anybody else.

He was always going to be in the public eye. An ounce of common sense, of which he appears to have none by the way, would have enabled him to think twice about acting the drunken boy-about-town. In fact, thinking at all would have been a good life skill he has assiduously avoided learning thus far

Apart from Doria, all the guests on Meghan's side were show business people, many of which asserted that they didn't really know them (notably George and Amal Clooney) and - as far as I can see - now almost unanimously, shunning them. Charles actually walked her down the aisle, FFS, after she shafted her father out of it.

Yes, the tours went pretty well, and they were almost literally in the "honeymoon period". But Meghan's "I can't believe I'm not getting paid for this" kinda set out her thinking very early on. Exactly what would be required of her didn't match up with her expectations of a Disney princess, perhaps

You're being Mystic Meg again; you don't know what I think. In fact, you couldn't be more wrong. I wish him happiness in the path he has taken with the woman he's chosen and with whom he shares two children. And I have no desire whatsoever to see him back in the UK, let alone the Royal Family, after the amount of bile and spite he has published. Of recent times, his behaviour has been beyond the pale.

Finally, if he or someone else wants to pay money for Table 115, let them at it. Bon appétit

Can I’ve a P please Bob? 🤪

That link also claims that Meghan may be writing her own book/memoir for release in 2025. Funnily enough, on the blaming Harry theme, a thought crossed my mind when I heard that Meghan wouldn’t be at the Aviation Award show when the reason given was that one of the kids was ill. Of any litany of plausible excuses then I thought that seemed oddly specific. It reminded me of the story from ’91 of William getting hit with a golf club and having to stay overnight at hospital.

Diana stayed with him overnight while Charles visited and, seeing that it was just stitches and William was fine, then went to the Opera as originally planned that evening. Diana was friends with some editors and, hey presto, Charles got lambasted by the press. They were separated a year later.

If, and I’m speculating here, H&M did themselves separate then it wouldn’t surprise me if this latest news made it into a money spinning memoir i.e. The only title important to me is Mom and I stayed home to mind our ill child while he thought it was more important to go and collect an award for himself. Like father, like son.

Of course their child may well have been sick and Meghan wanted to stay with them. It does get you thinking cynically and throwing Harry under the bus by blaming him for fast tracking Meghan into what he well knew was a Lions Den of protocol and press scrutiny would be a tempting narrative for a memoir.

Meghan : Her True Story.

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I'm sure Meghan could have declined a title and opted out of being a working royal. She would have had to support herself though.

She thought it was all glamour, that people in impoverished areas would ask her how she was and that she'd get paid for walkabouts.

I'd say her intention from the off was the half in/half out option. She didn't get her way and is now bitter.

I'd say there is an element of truth to that. i think Harry was so taken with Meghan that he did shoehorn her into royal life without considering if she would stay the course. It is an odd life for sure and you need to row in or get out. The vast majority of people would baulk at that commitment for life, unless you saw it as a stepping stone to fame which is what I think Meghan saw it as. Harry didnt realise this and thought she was genuinly going to stick it out. IMO of course. He wanted what William had, stability and a life partner, and thought he could replicate that. I do honestly think that if they had just gone go live in Botswana, where he had a real connection away from the money making and spotlight, they could have made a real difference to how poeple view the commonwealth and the monarchy. Ironically it would have made them both popular for all the right reasons. But they didnt.