Ian Bailey RIP - threadbans in OP

You can't say for sure he was innocent, the reality is we will probably never know if he killed her or not.

If anything the gardai and DPP were too light on Bailey as he and his partner initially provided a false alibi that he was at home in bed all night. This is a criminal offence which can lead to a suspended sentence in some cases.

Yeah I'm sure he had vibes. Interesting tonight on 9 o clock News a man from the Bantry area was interviewed and he said most people from the area of Schull believe Bailey was an innocent man.

When you say poor investigation methods ,are you talking about possible contamination of the crime scene. I could understand in that scenario how no physical evidence was left behind by the killer.

That was one man, pretty sure a woman on the six o clock hinted at the opposite.

The Garda investigation was so incompetent that if u were one of their own and involved in the murder you’d be delighted………

One crime doesn't make you guilty of another nor does it negate your right to innocence until proven guilty. As for his loving the attention and his confessions, clearly he may not have been rightly psychologically. To be accused of murder is a traumatic and seismic experience. It could cause any of us to deviate from our normal behavioural patterns. Is it possible his violence against his former partner was derived from a hatred against women given he was accused of murdering one? We don't know we can only speculate.

Whilst explaining why he might have been violent towards his former partner I'm not excusing it. As a man I would never condone raising a hand towards a woman unless she's coming at you violently herself then you have the right to restrain.

I don't have much empathy for Ian Bailey cos of the domestic abuse, but the whole story is tragic.

Particularly the young boy growing up without his amazing mother, how he's fought for justice but will probably never get closure.

Particularly also for Sophie who died in the most gruesome way possible.

Clearly his confession was not deemed legally credible. If anything that makes the state's case against him weaker if having confessed they still couldn't legally convict him.

I'm saying that the Gardai that were based around the West Cork area from 1990 onwards to the accidental cocaine sesuire in 2004 were wholly corrupt. That's what I'm saying, that's what the Irish Times said too. That locals who were complaining to the local "guardians of the peace", about vans meeting boats in secluded West Cork shorelines in the dead of winter, they were told by said guardians that nothing was going on and there was no need to investigate. When there clearly was.

Your theory could be right too. I mean, who the f**k knows at this stage, the supreme levels this country has gone down the corrupt f**king toilet

Assuming you haven't been accused of murder. Nor have I. We don't know with any certainty how we would act if were accused. It may have caused him to be psychologically damaged or he may have been already. Either way the state's case against him wasn't strong enough to get a conviction and like any of us he was entitled to be considered innocent until proven guilty. He had no less right to that than you and I no matter how we view his behaviour.

I could be the chief suspect and could state that I realise this to be so in any misdemeanour but it doesn't imply automatic guilt. Guilt must be proven and the state failed to do so.

It's not being pedantic. It's being realistic. You have made arguments and when challenged ran for the hills. Have a pleasant evening.