"Green" policies are destroying this country

So, there's a draft Offshore policy as of today.

Eamon and Co have doubled down on their 37GW by 2050. A 54 page policy you say, surely it must reason out the techno economic benefits for the consumers in arriving at that figure? Nope. The word "cost" features 10 times in the document, usually coupled with "effective" or "competitive" but not a single price is present. Apparently magic interconnectors we don't have (and come at €1.5 billion per 700MW themselves) and copious amounts of green hydrogen (which itself is incredulously expensive) is the solution. Magic beans indeed.

https://www.gov.ie/en/consultation/747c7-consultation-on-the-offshore-renewable-energy-ore-future-framework-policy-statement/

I could actually see the rational behind the offshore hydrogen plan of 50% generation for consumpion and 50% for hyrogen generation for when for extended periods it`s not windy out. Or even when it`s too windy out as we saw from wind generation yesterday. Problem was the rational bit the dust when it came to the overall financial cost plus a hopium of hydrogen working to scale.

Now even that tenuous rational has gone out the window. Eirgrid are prediction consumption by 2050 to be 14 GW. 37 GW of offshore under the wind hydrogen plan will only provide 7.2 GW. Half of what will be required, even when it is windy out. Still no costing but rather a hypothetical exercise into how much we can make from the sales of excess offshore wind or hydrogen neither of which we will have from 37 GW.

It`s insanity.

Hertz business model like Ryanair is wash, gas, go. While the car is sitting in the lot being charged or battery draining away, it's not making money. Tesla battery warranty is 100,000 miles or number of years which ever comes first, that's all very well if you have an EV that is used for short journeys, however, Hertz and their customers will be running these through rapid chargers (time is money) and the mileage will be significantly higher, therefore Hertz need to get rid of EVs before they incur a even greater liability due to battery replacement. Damage expenses with EVs are higher than ICE vehicles.

Another factor to consider, Hertz operates at airports, most people are flying into an area, hiring a car, getting on with their tasks and flying out. How much time do they want to spend hunting around for functioning rapid charging stations that do not have a queue, their time is constrained. That tempers the demand for EVs among customers somewhat. That's $35 charge for Hertz to recharge with an extra $25 added on if you return it with the battery charge below 10%.

Alot of air pollution, energy wasting and environmental waste also comes down to big business part they play. Some of them may opt for cheaper packaging (i believe for PR reasons and to make it look like they care but really its just because it costs less) but with this electric example, and other things like manufacturing, do they really care?

Aslong as they pay their "green tax" they can continue polluting. Essentially its profiting off of their pollution, by taxing it. Some intentionally choose to pay this tax instead of refusing to pollute, because more money (what they really care about).

Cool, its nice to know they don't consume much at all. its a relief, but still every little helps and they should be doing their part to help.

Why should big business get away with wasting electric, while domestic consumers are forced to consider not wasting it. Seems imbalenced and unfair. it's bribery in a way, aslong as they pay green tax moneys they can continue to get away with destroyed the earth and environment in other ways. (and with wasting electric too)

Keeping 2 large machine turned on powered up for 2 whole weeks prior to feb 1st is still a waste, look at the grand scheme of things and add up all that power than all these places doing the same thing. Its little to no power consumption, but add all that little bits up for a days worth and multiply it by x14, and then multiple that result for each place that has an rvm at the moment. Assuming they're all powered up, i think someone said there was 1400 RVMs in ireland at the moment, i'm hoping i am wrong on that, because otherwise, assuming they're all powered up, or even half of them, thats like 14x1400, or 14x700, = alot of electric overall in total wasted, maybe?

Who knows.

RTE mindful of who the Minister controlling their purse strings is may have noticed they had fallen below their usual weekly mention of climate change during the news broadcasts. Or they believe the amount of time George spends on air regurgitating press releases from greenies and their friendly NGOs justifies his large salary.

I didn`t see it myself, but either way it sounds like a waste of money and airtime.

It seems that Entso-E aren't afraid to put the costs in their reports (at least for the transmission infrastructure). The new ONDP is out now. You'll have to read a couple of the reports to evaluate the Irish proposition and of course remember that the capital costs of the wind farms themselves aren't included, nor are the costs of guaranteed prices for every 1 MW they can produce.

https://www.entsoe.eu/outlooks/offshore-hub/tyndp-ondp/#reports

There was discussions here around GWP variants. I wasn't aware that even if the existing GWP in use was found to be complete bull, we couldn't change to a better metric due to being legally obliged to use the incumbent until 2030. Mad stuff.

A nice peer reviewed paper on livestock emissions here - https://www.scienceopen.com/hosted-document?doi=10.15212/ijafr-2023-0107

Ag being screwed. Hopes to cull 200k cattle to reduce emissions that haven't risen in over 60 years!

Seems we're legally stuck with the accounting balls up for another 6 years. Whether by then there's a change or not is too early to tell. Ya'd hope over the next few years much more accurate data will be collected across the board, and better more accurate models in use to try predict the impossible.

The thing that amazes me is that we can't predict weather with any accuracy beyond 120hrs, yet we're to believe predictions for 10,20,50,100 years time

Dodgy accountancy is increasingly looking as being used to drive an agenda. When the law is an ass the sensible thing to do is to ignore it.

If we were challenged on it then from this report the E.U. wouldn`t have a leg to stand on. We could even make a good case that methane from cattle is as much, if not more, part of a carbon cycle than wood burning which is recognised as being carbon neutral.

I would be happy living in the west of Ireland if we had a forecast that could predict weather for 48hrs. let alone 120hrs.

I would say they need to be on as there must be some testing going on before roll out.

Exactly, well said! i been preaching the same kind of stuff in the new recycling scheme thread and been called delusional and a liar for it.

Things like "Green Tax" give companies the green light to keep polluting the earth and wasting electric as long as the government get their cut of the money.

Fines in general are like "ah thats fine aslong as you have the money to pay for it you can do it and get away with it, aslong as you can afford it" and doesnt actually stop the behavior. All this stuff can be summed up as "you can continue doing this aslong as you pay us, aslong as we make money from you doing it, its all good". they don't work and people are only profitting from the problem via the tax/fine instead of actually doing anything about it.

the green stuff being paraded around by businesses is usually a PR stunt, pandering for profit, or virtue signalling.

he does know how to spend a lot of our money !