Supersoil- Snake oil?

I use a lick bucket full of mollasses per bay of the slatted house. Add to a full tank then agitate. Come back about 6-8 weeks later and you'll have grass rocket fuel

Molasses is sugar, feed the bugs.

As John says the Mollasses feeds the Bugs. It's the bugs that break down the slurry. When you spread raw slurry out onto the field it still hs to break down before the grass can use it.

The Mollasses trick is one that most waste water treatment plants use to break down slurry

Since molasses is 75% sucrose and 22% water, couldn't you use ordinary sugar instead? This can be bought cheaply in bulk from catering suppliers, so I wonder if it would be cheaper than molasses from the co-op?

I got a few small bits this year for a bullock that wouldn't eat ration and the local coop were 60c/l if you were only buying small amounts. They had an IBC in the yard for the purpose. I'd imagine that it would be a good deal less to buy in an IBC. Most around here used to go to the Premier Molasses depot in Foynes with their own barrels etc. Not sure if that option is still there or not.

A lot depends also on the grasses. PRG certainly don't like a reduction in nitrogen as they are bred specifically for it. Annoyingly the MSS mix mandated by the Dept has 55% PRG.

Cut a field of red clover silage today. The main grass at this time of year in my mix is cocksfoot. Other species will take over later, timothy and fescues. It got untreated slurry in Feb, nothing else, I'm organic.

It would be impossible to know if an additive would have an effect, except by proper trials.

I do know one has to be careful as it can effect the fertility in ewes. Haven't heard of your problem. Think I'd be cautious with sheep in general. Mighty stuff for cattle though.

Question for say or anyone else.

Have to spray super soil for a customer tomorrow or the next day. What weather conditions are required, dry with no rain forecast or can it be sprayed on damp grass??

Tried googling the data sheet for super soil, but as mentioned before, they don't advertise the essential information.

Ideal, thanks enda

That would be a very tough trial on any biology or feed for biology.

The best results you'd get is when the field is humming. It keeps it humming. But if it's not. It won't start it off iykwim.

Well the marketing and directions need to improve then. They are directly putting this up against fertiliser on all their advertising. Nowhere did I see it needs a good covering of grass to apply it on.

If it's clever marketing, rather than a quality product, it will do immense damage to those looking to solutions at lessening inorganic nitrogen use.

Supersoil -

The paddock I treated hasnt been farmed hard, no fertiliser, no spraying, no slurry in last 5 years.. Careful grazing and topping.. Has a decent diverse sward with a good deal of clover naturally present.. It was clipped a wee bit tight this spring with the pony though, I'll say that.

Pesticides harm. You'd definitely need humates or humic acid to buffer that harm.

Include the molasses with that. If it was me seaweed would be in that as well.

Found the same.

Some neck on them. Capitalised on a year following record fert prices where everyone was on the lookout for alternatives

Tom Pemberton is very quiet on his usage of it. Would be brilliant if he said it was sh1te. I suspect though that we'll hear nothing more about it from him.

They were in contact again with Farm Theory to see if they could get him onside, but seemingly it just convinced him even more that it is junk.

It is really annoying me at the minute how they are able to sell this stuff in Ireland with nothing to back up the claims. I thought this type of thing was limited to late night American cable TV.

What's worse is that I was considering buying it too!

He’d of got the product for free plus a few k for promoting it, if they threw him another few k he’d go and top up the fields with a bag of fert and then do a video rambling on about how good it is

Tom p’s target audience is people from town who don’t know anything about farming, not serious operators. Bit like grassmen’s for tennagers who’ve never spent 16hrs a day for a week bouncing about on the things donkey gets a horn looking at someone else working with.

I note they've another ad campaign on agriland pushing at the minute where a farmer went from 29 bales to 50

Tom's one of the few to make massive profit per hectare off them #ad

I messaged Tom a while back about updates on the super soil trial he did.

He wasn't impressed