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How many people here have a landline?

  • 23-01-2024 3:18pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,406 ✭✭✭


    My folks contract (broadband, landline) is up with eir so it's up to me to find a new 1. I could get a good deal if they would ditch the landline but no. Just curious how many people out there still have one.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,903 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    Set up a poll, then! I have a landline but I mostly use it to find where I left my mobile (when it's handier than using 'find my device' on the laptop). 😄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,406 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    I should have done a poll in hindsight but I don't want to double post a thread.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,107 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    I have one as it came as a part of the broadband package I initially signed up to when we moved in 10 years ago, and even bought a cordless phone to plug in and use the odd time, but that hasn't been plugged in for at least 6-7 years now.. so although technically I have a landline, it is not used.


    My Mother continues to maintain a landline even though she's is fully mobile with both an iPad & iPhone..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭cml387


    Landlines are on the way out anyway.

    We have a landline number but it's through the Virgin modem now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,392 ✭✭✭.red.


    I rang eir yesterday about my bill being €22 pm more that what I'd pay Vodafone for the same package. They tried to get me to sign up to a landline for a discount and I flat out said no cos I don't want or need one. He insisted I had to get one for a discount, made no sense except that he was probably on a commission.

    I told him I'd cancel so and move providers and miraculously he was able to get me down €20pm if I tied myself into a new contract for a year, which I'd no issue with.

    So no, I don't have a landline but a lot of people on the phone yesterday would probably have taken one.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,133 ✭✭✭Sarn


    We have one, however, I don’t know what the number is. We only use it for outgoing calls or when the mobile signal is bad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,406 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    The issue I have is most deals I can find have limited minutes on the landline and they spend hours on it every week. All their friends are on WhatsApp they don't need the landline. Just stubborn old farts😜



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,838 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    I have a landline but was stopped in the upgrade in modem and no longer needed and reduces Broadband fees.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,003 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    Apparently I do. However there’s no phone plugged into any line. For many operators, a package with broadband + phone is cheaper.

    It costs them nothing to provision a number over IP (broadband). If you use it, then it’s good for them as they’ll make money on the call.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,993 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Really forced to have a landline. No mobile coverage where I live and none for about 200-300 around me. Total pain in the arse when it comes to authenticating anything that needs a txt.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,155 ✭✭✭jj880


    I do but only because I cant get 500mb fibre. My parents got 500mb fibre recently which got rid of their landline. Their old house phones plug into the back of the Vodafone gigabox router. Same landline number ported over. They had a 6mb copper line before so theyre obviously very happy with it. They both have monthly bundle with their mobiles for data / calls anyway so they dont use the house phones much. They like having them as backup though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,107 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    You should go over and 'accidentally' take the landline phone out of commission (snip a wire or something), and promise them you'll fix it, as you just need to pop into a shop to get a certain wire on the way home from work tomorrow...... but tomorrow never comes..... keep it on the long finger..

    The carrot of saving money isn't working, so try the stick and force them to do everything over the internet connection they are already paying for... Older folk can be very stubborn about embracing technology, but I always find once they get a few pointers, and start using it, they'll eventually accept it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,932 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    We couldn't function without a landline, as mobile reception is terrible. We've a legacy deal with eir where the fixed charge covers all calls to Irish and UK landlines and mobiles.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,206 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Had a VOIP 'landline' (01 number) with my broadband but never had a phone connected to it, dropped it when they stopped charging a surcharge for *not* having one about four years ago



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,011 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I had a landline with vodafone and it seemed to be just part of the package, I am in a Siro area, but Sky asked for extra for the landline. At the time it was €30 per month for a new account.

    No offence to your parents but if they are OAPs I think they get free landlines? or a discount from the Dept of Soc Protection.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,836 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    I have one but it hasn't rang in years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,206 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Long gone - was removed in 2014. It was 9.50 a month so didn't cover costs by then anyway.

    People on living alone and fuel allowance get 2.50 extra automatically to 'cover' phone, nobody else gets anything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,011 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Gov are such bastards, time to start protesting LANDLINES FOR ALL :)

    Do they not still get the free TV licence?


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,011 ✭✭✭RoTelly




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,529 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    I have a landline number as part of my Virgin broadband and we had a phone plugged into the router for a while but then it died and we never replaced it, so another one who technically has one but never uses it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,206 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    They do, and a contribution towards electricity, or gas - or bottled gas if they don't have electricity/mains gas!

    I don't mean bulk LPG tanks there, there is a form to get a subsidy for standard Calor tanks for the ten elderly farmers left without mains power.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,032 ✭✭✭DopeTech


    No need for one in this day and age. Alarm systems etc can run on wifi/cellular.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    Long gone. Was an absolute money pit, particularly when you have someone constantly on the phone to relatives abroad. No "special package" ever really covered it.

    Now use Whatsapp on Wifi and despite endless hours of chat to people across the water, no enormous phone bills.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,950 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Stopped working a few years ago and was never repaired.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,217 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Dont you have a landline automatically when you have broadband?

    I'm on fibre for some time and with that comes a VOIP connection. Which is a virtual landline of sorts but its still what people would call a landline. And if you're not on fibre you're still on copper and while the attached voice service is still likely going to be VOIP rather than POTS its even more of a landline than fibre, no?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,011 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Anyone know why a Landline number can't be ported over to a Mobile sim card? For many it is just a case of wanting to keep the number.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,606 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    I have the olde copper connection that I pay eir 10 euro a month on top of internet bill. They will have to strip the copper from my cold dead hands before I give it up. It works when the electricity is gone, I have terrible phone reception so it's a treat to have such a clear connection on the landline.

    Having said that, it is painful being anchored to eir given others such as Vodafone usually have good deals on internet and are far nicer to deal with.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,924 ✭✭✭blackbox


    We gave it up when we moved house a few years ago.

    We used to think it was necessary for a business but not any more.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,206 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    No, but they can be to VoIP services like blueface

    DSL can be provisioned without, cable and real fibre don't have a phone element



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,642 ✭✭✭PGE1970


    Mine reminds me of this. You need to be an oldie to remember it!




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,217 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    DSL can be provisioned without, cable and real fibre don't have a phone element

    Thats true but the splitter solution is after being phased out anyway. Even when I still had copper/DSL they had the voice element converted to VOIP cos it made it cheaper that way on the public switch side.

    And yes fibre and cable dont have even a hint of a physical landline element but a telephone voice service is still available via VOIP and comes with most packages for free or a nominal fee AFAIK.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭con747


    I do and it's invaluable due to no mobile signal and the number of power cuts I get. I have a spare old phone to plug in during power cuts which works off the small current through the line AFAIK. I think the people who say you don't need one these days all live in urban areas where you probably don't. Not the same in the sticks!

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,498 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    I think a lot of people are conflating having a landline with actually having a home phone plugged into it. Most people with non-fibre broadband technically have a landline but how many actually have a house phone that they still use to make calls? I don't know anyone with one, other than the handful of Boardsies who've said it in this thread and in TA when it came up there the other day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,217 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    I still use the landline on occasion. But mostly for elderly relatives or international calls to business numbers where landline can still be cheaper.

    Private international calls are mostly WhatsApp or such.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭NickNickleby


    My folks had a landline in the seventies - real novelty when it arrived. Anyway one of my sisters headed off to the US of A. One time in the early 80's my mother shows me the phone bill. It was HORRENDOUS, something like£200, when my mortgage was about 96 a month. So eventually we deduced that the bill covered Christmas. Did you by any chance ring Sis? Yes, but I was only on for about an hour 😮. Nowadays its WhatsApp, and while the calls still last as long, they cost a lot less!!

    Anyway, my mother still has the landline, and so do I. MrsN won't relinquish ours.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,217 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    MrsN won't relinquish ours.

    MrsC is the same. And her argument is what if we need to call someone urgently when electricity is down? I tried to explain it doesn't work that way anymore but without success so far.

    But it doesn't really cost a thing, grand so



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,993 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Wish ours didn't cost a thing. Bl00dy Eir, no mobile signal, no broadband so stuck with copper :-( Fiber stopped 400m up the road.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,313 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    I thought I had a landline but it's really VoiP through the fritzbox (Digiweb)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,140 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    Got rid of the landline years ago. We had 3 cordless phones. One day when tidying, I found the three of them in various places, batteries completely drained. When I fired them up, I realised they’d last been used 6 months previously, and we hadn’t even noticed that they were out of use. We were getting fibre broadband at the time, and declined the VoIP phone service when switching to that. Never missed it even once since.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,201 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Haven't had an active one since SIRO based fibre became available in the area. I don't even use the ISP's router for that matter.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,273 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    No point in a landline anymore. They’re VOIP so they won’t work if the power is gone. That was the only slight advantage they had.

    Who’d bother ringing a landline when you’re guaranteed to get the person on their mobile?

    This is water. Inspiring speech by David Foster Wallace https://youtu.be/DCbGM4mqEVw?si=GS5uDvegp6Er1EOG



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Yes for business purposes. When I see a business advertising and all they have is a mobile no, I raise an eyebrow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,932 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Of course landlines work when the power's off. It's how I report a power outage for a start. Not all landlines are VOIP. And not everybody has sufficient network coverage to rely solely on mobiles. Don't judge every situation based on just your own circumstances.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,206 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Not for long - https://www.openeir.ie/copper-switch-off/

    There may be battery backup when they initially move people over but it is likely to just not get maintained



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,273 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    In fairness, yes, there are plenty of pockets where because of geography or low population they have poor coverage and need a fixed line into the house.

    The copper is going though so my point about VOIP not working when the power goes stands. They’ve encountered this in the UK already where they are ahead of us on the switch. The best solution they came up with was to provide a simple mobile and power bank to vulnerable customers and tell them to keep it charged in case the power goes. Not great and little use in an area with poor reception.

    This is water. Inspiring speech by David Foster Wallace https://youtu.be/DCbGM4mqEVw?si=GS5uDvegp6Er1EOG



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 873 ✭✭✭Juran


    Same with us. Havent used the virgin phone in 6+ years, but its still there. Part of the monyhly tv/broadband package.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 761 ✭✭✭Vita nova


    Have a virtual landline (VOIP) from Virgin Media with an old Telecom Eireann Avoca phone connected to a standard telephone jack (RJ11) on the modem, also have a standard landline number. In every respect it's the same as a landline except it needs mains power and an internet connection. It seems to be given internet access priority because even when the internet access is poor the phone line is usually good.

    I still use it and would hate to lose it. I often use it when calling my parents who have a standard landline (POTS); they have poor hearing and landline calls are always of a consistent quality whereas mobile calls to them can vary from very good to very bad.

    I also use it when calling customer service support for insurance, waste, energy suppliers etc; I just put the phone on speaker while I'm in the 'queue' and that way I'm free to make or receive calls on my mobile.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,993 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    From that it reads like Eir will be taking advantage of the Rural Broadband Scheme to get out of providing me with copper. Cnuts, they were too tight to run 400m of fibre down to me and my neighbors but will get the job done free and be rid of copper, care of the government.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭yagan


    I last relied on a landline 25 years ago. I had a regional rep job with my own little office with a landline and a fax, printer and desktop computer on which I'd write the letters that would be faxed.

    I had a personal mobile when they were still a novelty and simply switched the office landline through to my mobile. I'd make my site visits and only drop into the office to check the physical mail and send the odd fax.

    The only practical use of a landline in recent years was the mother in law having one of those panic bracelets linked to it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,313 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious




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