Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee poll not working - pl ignore

NIMAN · 21-01-2024 11:23pm

Unless they find some way of limiting it to one €15 charge per address.

Would mean then than 4 mobiles registered at the house wouldn't pay 60 per month.

Personally, I think this is all a bit of kite flying. Can't see it happening.

GoingLinux · 21-01-2024 11:24pm

If they can privatize bin collections and electricity, why can't they privatize RTE?

Can't you get a NI sim card and roam with broadband?

RoTelly · 22-01-2024 12:35pm

The 15 euro on broadband is a 20 euro increase, and we see no signs of change in RTÉ, and would result in 300m+ going to the broadcaster.

Oliver Callahan getting 150k for his show + 250 for PK on TLLS = 400k, and we know PK is doing less shows than RT, so you now have a situation that in reality both shows presenters are getting the near the same money as RT!

While I agree with PSB and funding it I think a % should be added to all telecom products, Pay TV and On Demand Services (Netflix, Amazon and so on).

This would spread the 15 euro out across products rather than this blunt flat fee.

You gomo 9.99 bill would just increase to 10.30 for example on a 3% "license fee". Added to business on a non-refundable basis.

So e.g a household with

Broadband at 40, On Demand services at 40, Mobile Phones at 50, Pay TV at 20 would see their bills increase across all by 3% or €4.50 or a 6% fee of €9.

skimpydoo · 22-01-2024 5:16pm

This will be a punitive tax that seeks to reward RTE. Why should we be paying for RTE's fook ups?

If this government brings this in, they will loose a lot of seats in the next election.

I live alone and I could be paying €30 a month because I have broadband and a mobile.

I pity households who have multiple mobile phones and broadband too.

Lastly I am wondering if you have a dumb phone such as a basic Doro or a pay as you go phone will you be paying as well?

lbunnae · 22-01-2024 5:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121648285#Comment_121648285

Bahah so wait, the cultured people watching Rte???

Emblematic · 22-01-2024 5:55pm

Seems like RTE is going to get what they have wanted for some time: unconditional payment from the public regardless of whether they have televisions.

The ironic thing is that they will have achieved this through being incompetent and greedy.

Prior to this, you had the right to not pay RTE fully legally, though it meant not owning a TV. Now this final bit of consumer power that might keep RTE accountable is being taken away.

The correct response to the RTE scandals is to give consumers more power, not less. Don't take the tiny bit of power away from the public.

jmcc · 24-01-2024 8:56am

The Forbes fallout continues:

https://www.independent.ie/news/rte-board-to-face-calls-to-quit-over-toy-show-the-musical-fiasco/a983520099.html

And still she hasn't appeared before the Oireachtas committees.

Regards...jmcc

jmcc · 24-01-2024 1:22pm

Bloody Hell! This looks really bad for the board of RTE and for Forbes.

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/0124/1428345-rte-toy-show-musical/

Regards...jmcc

SEPT 23 1989 · 24-01-2024 2:07pm

So who exactly signed off on it?

jmcc · 24-01-2024 2:13pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121664798#Comment_121664798

The report will be published tomorrow but apparently the board was meant to sign off on it. They did not. Some of them might be encouraged to resign for the good of RTE. This is far worse for Forbes and the former board of RTE than the Tubridy paynents scandal.

Regards...jmcc

jmcc · 24-01-2024 2:23pm

More details.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/rte-board-never-signed-off-on-22m-box-office-flop-toy-show-the-musical-new-report-finds/a1107874141.html

Regards...jmcc

retalivity · 24-01-2024 2:53pm

Fantastic timing really, when the talk was about direct funding through taxation or a levy on broadband. Remind everyone what these crooks did and why giving them a blank cheque is a horrendous idea

Northernlily · 24-01-2024 4:23pm

Is this the state of Governance in semi state and state bodies in this country? Someone was brazen and confident enough to run this production using our funds without approval from the board. The board theselves were obviously not performing in their duties and viewed as a soft touch.

Frightening levels of incompentence with our funds.

NIMAN · 24-01-2024 6:03pm

Just when you thought the lack of control and waste of money couldn't get any worse at rte.

alzer100 · 24-01-2024 6:57pm

Just on Dee Forbes, I can recall sometime back when she removed her profile from LinkedIn. There are a couple of "Dee Forbes" still on LinkedIn but the job description of one of them really struck me. All I could think of to myself: Jesus that chap, if he only knew the half of it 🙂

political analyst · 24-01-2024 7:40pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121655082#Comment_121655082

It's safe to assume that RTÉ will be nothing like the Toy Show Musical in the future. Furthermore, Tubs is long gone. Presumably, the new levy will remove the threat of prosecution for having a TV set without a licence.

jmcc · 24-01-2024 7:49pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121666718#Comment_121666718

What's going to happen with any new "levy" is that there will be a threat of termination of the political career of any politician involved. This is the Irish Water tax scam on steroids in terms of public anger.

Regards...jmcc

SEPT 23 1989 · 24-01-2024 10:06pm

Who in RTE signed the contract with the production venue?

we need names

skimpydoo · 25-01-2024 2:11am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121666718#Comment_121666718

Just because Tubs is long gone, does not mean RTE is forgiven or forgotten. We do not know what the future RTE will look like but we will have a fairly good idea by what RTE does in 2024.

And as has already been pointed out, anyone who introduces this levy is committing political suicide.

jmcc · 25-01-2024 8:00am

The report will be published this morning. The Indo's coverage is more than damning on the board members and management. The Oireachtas committees seem to want more appearances from RTE people. The appearances of the RTE people in front of the committees are much more popular than Tubridy's LLS or that musical. Wouldn't be suprised to see more calls for the breakup of RTE.

Regards...jmcc

Trampas · 25-01-2024 8:07am

Still can’t understand how people can just walk away with their pensions and don’t need to answer questions on their actions or hide behind a doctor’s note. Has she gone to an independent doctor

fplfan12345 · 25-01-2024 10:12am

How is it not criminal behaviour ?

LambshankRedemption · 25-01-2024 10:22am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121664867#Comment_121664867

Did anyone see Toy Show the Musical? What was the plot?

glenfieldman · 25-01-2024 10:25am

Dee Forbes is a **** of the highest and also a coward hiding behind MH

25-01-2024 10:37am

€15 per month on every broadband bill is absolutely nuts. It could end up doing damage to Ireland's broadband uptake to fund a legacy industry.

I can see the telcos being really annoyed about this. It could kill half the mobile broadband market for example.

A €15 a month hike in the price of say GoMo or similar would more than double the price of their plans.

This is as stupid as the proposal to tax text messages about 10 years ago.

Also, in most households there's a broadband service on everyone's mobile and probably the fixed line broadband too. So you could be looking at 2, 3 or even 4 people if you'd a couple of teens, with accounts. How's that going to work? There's no way households are going to pay €720 a year for RTE.

jmcc · 25-01-2024 10:43am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121669020#Comment_121669020

Some people living in the village of Montrosia saw the success of Riverdance and wanted to earn loads of money and acclaim. But it all ended in tragedy for the Montrosians. :)

Regards...jmcc

25-01-2024 10:50am

At this stage, it looks like they'll have to dismantle RTE. I don't really see how it can be repaired. It's clearly in need of more than restructuring. I think it's time to just start with a totally new model for public service broadcasting.

RTE doesn't even achieve many of the things you'd expect from a PSB. For example it has a complete lack of regional broadcasting and can't even seem to even resource the regional correspondents properly

It's a 1960s model that comes from an era of an assumed monopoly, no satellite, cable or IPTV and a single centralised tv provider when it was extremely expensive and technically complex to produce.

There's a need for a massive rethinking of how we do this, not just lobbing a fee on random utility bills.

jmcc · 25-01-2024 10:53am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121668971#Comment_121668971

It would require an investigation to determine what laws, if any, have been broken and then would require a prosecution.

Regards...jmcc

25-01-2024 10:57am

I'm still not quite sure what RTE's structure actually is.

It doesn't appear to be a normal company structure. The majority of the so called 'semi-states' like the ESB are structured exactly as a commercial company would be, just with the state as the main or only shareholder.

RTE seems to be some kind of other structure. I've yet to have it properly explained.

It seems to have an executive board and a non-executive board, which used to be called the RTE Authority.

I'm unclear as to whether it's a company or what it is exactly, which is even more bizarre as I can't even seem to find a proper description of it anywhere.

I mean, you can see the structure of it described, but there's no terminology used i.e. 'this is a limited company' etc

Sometimes it seems to behave like a company. Sometimes it behaves like a some other kind of public body that's not quite described.

Does anyone know what it actually is? It's a fairly fundamental question.

jmcc · 25-01-2024 11:02am

Resignations?

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/rte-board-members-on-brink-of-resignation-over-22m-toy-show-musical-scandal/a1799331036.html

Regards...jmcc

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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee poll not working - pl ignore