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Senior Information and Communications Technology (ICT) Specialist in Civil Service

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  • Registered Users Posts: 20 gougeaway


    Thanks HugoMyBoss. I'm not that familiar with the Civil Service recruitment process so if 'm on the panel and a position comes up is there another interview or is it just down to clearance and references at that stage?



  • Registered Users Posts: 330 ✭✭rostalof


    Yeah, that's it. Interviews are done now. When they get to your number on the panel, you'll be offered a position and they'll check out your references and do your vetting.



  • Registered Users Posts: 330 ✭✭rostalof


    The options for these type of positions outside of Dublin are limited, but there are some, so it would be no harm letting PAS know the counties you're interested in working in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,035 ✭✭✭Daith


    If you turn down an offer because of location, are you removed from the panel?



  • Registered Users Posts: 20 gougeaway


    I spoke to a recruitment exec in the PAS and explained my location preferences. Like you I thought if I declined an offer because of location I would be removed from the panel but she said no. They do like to know your location preferences so they can avoid rejected offers.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 15 M1ssym00




  • Registered Users Posts: 180 ✭✭HugoMyBoss


    Got my results of Software Developer role this morning, very happy!!



  • Registered Users Posts: 41 carlandlenny


    Hi, sorry for a silly question, but I'm not at all familiar how the civil service works.

    I applied for a very similar role to this ('Senior', IT, HEO level) and got an order of merit 18. Does this mean I'm 18th in line to get the job? Is this good or bad for such a position? I indicated I'd only work in Dublin, is it likely they will have 18 more positions this year?

    Thanks!

    EDIT after reading some posts above re location, and checking my application, it seems I did not specify Dublin, but in any case I'll only work there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,035 ✭✭✭Daith


    Essentially you're 18th on a list. Various civil service bodies will ask for someone to fill that role and that list will be used and they'll work their way down. So yes, you'll be called if there's 18 vacancies ready to be filled (this could be over a year). If people are ahead of you but drop out or refuse, you might be called earlier.



  • Registered Users Posts: 41 carlandlenny


    Thanks for that.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6 Roger1998


    Hi All,

    I placed Top 10 OOM in HEO Software Dev - the message gives the impression that there is only one position available but the campaign appeared to be open to a number of positions - is it likely I will receive an offer at some stage?

    Thanks



  • Registered Users Posts: 15 M1ssym00


    Yes, the email isn't very clear about any of this. The order of merit is your place on the list/panel.

    I think Daith explained this earlier in the thread but basically all of the Civil Service will take people from this list, starting at the top. So it's not one position, but many different positions in different departments. How fast they go through the list depends on lots of things, both availability of roles and confirmation of references/vetting of people above you in the list.

    If you're top 10 in the OOM it's very likely that you will get offered a position, it could just be in a couple of months rather than a couple of weeks.

    I believe previous panels of this type were open for about 2 years so if you're lower down on the list/OOM you should expect to wait longer but most should get an offer at some stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,035 ✭✭✭Daith


    Generally, they won't run a competition like this without an expectation that multiple vacancies will come up. Though there can be quite a delay at times.



  • Registered Users Posts: 330 ✭✭rostalof


    The confirmation of references/vetting of people above you on the panel will have no bearing on when you're offered a job. As soon as a position arises to be filled they move to the next person on the panel and offer it to them. If candidate X is offered a job with department A but has to work out 2 months notice or it takes a while for his/her vetting or references, once that candidate is going through that process, it's taken for granted that's where they're being assigned. When a job arises with Department B, it's offered to the next candidate on the panel, candidate Y, regardless of candidate X being confirmed with Department A or not. The whole system would grind to a complete halt if they stopped allocating positions to wait for vetting, references or notice periods. If candidate X ultimately doesn't pass vetting, that position will be offered to the next available person on the panel.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 180 ✭✭HugoMyBoss


    Hi,

    Has anyone been placed from this competition yet?

    Cheers!



  • Registered Users Posts: 20 gougeaway


    Hi @HugoMyBoss , I have been placed from the Digital Business Engagement panel and will be starting in a few weeks. I am also on the Software Development Panel but have not heard anything from that.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6 Roger1998


    I'm going through pre employment clearance at the moment - but it's been 8 weeks since I've heard anything. Normal dept too, no in depth clearance and E-Vetting done within a week. Assume they're working through a back log. I was top 10 OOM



  • Registered Users Posts: 20 gougeaway


    @Roger1998 my clearance took over 7 weeks, was waiting 4 weeks after submitting references. I'd say PAS have a big back log due to summer holidays like you said. Drop them an email if you want to know what stage your application is at, it certainly won't do any harm. Best of luck!



  • Registered Users Posts: 6 Roger1998


    Thanks @gougeaway - I had been thinking that I may have missed an email etc. but your wait time has given me confidence! I had emailed the clearance mailbox last month but assume that has just been added to the backlog! I'll wait another little while and if not contact PAS.

    Have you started yet or are you working notice at the moment?



  • Registered Users Posts: 20 gougeaway


    Working notice at the moment. When you complete clearance you will get a notification on your publicjobs.ie message board and the department you are being placed in will contact you directly. Hang tight!

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4 dianana


    May I ask, how long did it take to check your current employer's reference? Also, did you know the location where you would be placed during the clearance process or just aftet? I know the department, but don't know in which city and publicjobs do not answer the question.



  • Registered Users Posts: 20 gougeaway


    Took 4 weeks to check references and yes I knew the location from the beginning of the clearance process.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6 Roger1998


    Got my contract last week...the end of a long wait! Now to move on to the longer wait of a one year probation 😅 Does anyone have advice on ensuring the best chance of passing, obviously planning on hitting the ground running but would appreciate any advice



  • Registered Users Posts: 20 gougeaway


    Glad to hear you got your contract @Roger1998, it does take time. I'm interested to hear about tips to get through the one year of probation too. I presume keep the head down and avoid lateness and absences would be a good start. Best of luck in your new job.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4 vivi.nova


    Hi @gougeaway Congratulations on your achievement! 👏 Could you please provide some interview tips?



  • Registered Users Posts: 20 gougeaway


    Hi @vivi.nova like most people say about PAS interviews, stick to the competencies and have examples. Always answer a question with an example of what you have done previously. I had two interviews a couple of weeks apart and learned a lot from the first and ended up doing much better in the second interview. In the second interview I tried to answer all questions with relevant examples and to highlight my strengths in terms of the competencies. I also had a better rapport with the second interview panel which was a big help. Good luck.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4 vivi.nova




  • Registered Users Posts: 4 SneakyBeaver


    Has anyone been picked from the Digital Business Engagement panel from the interviews in December 2023? I placed high on the panel but I'm located in Galway and want to know if other positions have been filled nationwide?

    As previously mentioned, it may be a waiting game for months instead of weeks as originally though.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4 SneakyBeaver


    I hope the new position is going well for you. How long were you waiting on the panel before being called and was it for outside of Dublin?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 20 gougeaway


    @SneakyBeaver I was placed on the panel in late May, notified of placement in late July, completed clearance in mid September. I was on a national panel and was placed outside of Dublin. Job going well and so far I'm happy that I moved from my previous job and employer.



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