Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Another twist in the tale

It's definitely true ....

It's a large loss for any Ukrainian unit in a single action

Either that or toilet bowls?

Israel just put in a substantial military Order with the US to include more F35s F15EXs not even in service ,Apache helicopters ,along with artillery and other munitions to be filled asap they have asked the US Airforce to give up there production slots on the F15s F35s who has priority over foreign customers, now last time Israel asked for munitions after the Oct 7th terrorist attacks US shell deliveries to Ukraine dropped by 30%

Hard to sy I suppose it depends where they popped out of the sewers and was there say a large concentration of Ukrainian military in 1 position resting maybe in a building and the Russians got in there before they knew what was happening, how long where they going around before Ukrainian forces realised what was happening and what troops Russia was using as well as if they were using some of their more crack troops and they got in amongst the Ukrainians especially if coming from a direction and place where you never would of expected them to be they could of caused carnage.

Ohh to be fair you would crap it as like you say there inside your lines they have gotten pass your forward and probably secondary positions without them knowing and there in behind you which no one was expecting is 100 to 150 Russians. They would of taken out a lot of Ukrainians as they would not of been expecting them to literally appear in your positions out of thin air. Luckily for Ukraine there wasn't a few 100 more Russians coming out of this gap before Ukraine realised.

"it's been confirmed that the Russians grained positions which they can likely increase the numbers in adviika"

Any chance of providing a source for this confirmation you mention?

I can't see anything in the media about new positions being taken by putin's troops in Adiivka through crawling through a sewer so some sort of reputable source for your "confirmation" would help avoid this thread being derailed by questions over where this information is coming from. Just seen a good article from a recognised media source about why so many moskovtes are being killed while making so little progress in their continued attacks on parts of Ukraine:

Edit: Actually did think someone had already found an official source that made out your claims are not based on anything factual so just reposting that in case you missed it:

We are well and truly back to WW1 with artillery barrages, trench warfare and now tunnel warfare

There is not a notion they killed 300 people from it though!

So is the consensus here that there was no tunnel breakthrough and/ or no significant loss on the Ukrainian side?

People are confused,it happened Russia made some gains through it , other people have said it happened , the usual suspects no ,no ,no It didn't happen,it couldn't have happened,but yet again here we are ,

Russia needs to take a page out of the Hamas book and start living underground, lol.

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I think the that the sewer story may indeed have happened. My own assumption and that is an assumption mind you, is that this avdiivka salient which is in the process of collapsing at the moment as you can see at the tight neck:

Is potentially explained by the sewer story.

Now after that what we have is our local sewer pipe style poster @Gatling claiming that somehow Ukraine lost what? Over a platoon? Half a brigades worth of soldiers in a single move somehow? Based on nothing more than, from what I can see, one twitter post and one video where some Ukrainians can be heard saying "200" and "300".

And again I could be wrong here, I'll always caveat but there's a few things that I think make that extremely unlikely:

• I just don't see the Ukranian army being so incompetent as to have 2-300 frontline soldiers in one area of the map that could be encircled by a single underground tunnel move. And nothing on the Deepstate map shows said encirclement so far.
• Losing 300 soldiers in a single attack would be hitting more mainstream levels of news. So far we have one twitter video confirmed? Which doesn't actually confirm anything like this. There was mention of more trusted twitter accounts earlier but when I asked these were not provided.
• UAF operational silence has been good at obfuscating their losses so far but I just don't see over a platoon of soldiers being wiped in an afternoon as being possible to sweep under the rug. At this point you're approaching Azovstal Steel plant siege levels of encirclement.
• The "300" and "200" comment is more easily explained by Soviet codes for casualties. I'm sure Ukraine did lose people as they do every day on the lines.

Then of course since then we've had a few fantastical pie in the sky scenarios about somehow Russia catching hundreds of Ukranians in the same building and killing them all.

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Is it possible? Yes. But i'll wait for more than a few seconds of a conversation in a video and the word of a few internet contrarians before I believe it the next Azovstal steel plant scenario just occured.