Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

Any nationality you want , there fixed that for you .

Unvetted care workers in Tulsa !!

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41313403.html

Sure a asylum seeker with no qualifications or vetting got himself a job with the HSE as a child psychologist,

The government seems to have a never ending money tree for foreigners, yet there a kids with scoliosis getting worse and worse that they refuse to sort out, leading to more expensive treatments and a lot more pain for the sufferer in the future.

Given the refusal rates for those countries he cant be that interested in them.

You don't say?

But nothing to see here according to some NGO adjacent people.

So, seeing as bullying communities into accepting all and sundry into their areas hasn't worked, let's try bribery...

... You'd definitely know there were elections on the way, wouldn't you?!

Lucky didn’t. even got an NGO for himself.

In the one article we get admission from govt that:

Ukraine is safe enough to return to

Our high social welfare offering is why so many were coming here

Refugees are moving into the private housing market (thereby competing with Irish people during a housing crisis)

Most of Asylum seekers are coming from designated safe countries

Fùck me…it’s almost as if people have been saying all of those things for two years and were dismissed for spreading “far right” myths…all true

And now, when the horse has bolted and died of old age, and now rotting on the ground, now these decide they want to exercise some common sense and close the stable door

It would nearly be amusing if it wasn’t so bloody serious and they hadn’t wasted billions of taxpayer funds. Utter moronic turkeys the lot of them. Same goes for those in this thread cheerleading them all along.

I find it hard to believe that refugees are buying houses. There was a report on Tuesday saying that couples with a combined income of €80,000 a year cannot afford to take out a new mortgage in Ireland (and a situation that has certainly not been caused by immigration either).

This is the biggest issue really.

The country has been changed irrevocably by this misadventure over the last 2 years.

In reality what will happen next is those already here (Ukrainians or otherwise) will be allowed remain as long as they want at taxpayer expense, and when they have been here long enough, McEntee or her successor will seal the deal with a citizenship ceremony and puff piece on RTE thus making them our responsibility permanently. We've seen it happen numerous times already. I see no evidence of anything different in the future.

Meanwhile, communities which have had hundreds of people parachuted into their midst will continue to deal with the fallout of increased strain on housing, GP and hospital access, school places and all the other pressures that are an obvious (to all except those making the decisions) result of this.

The other result of this is the further polarisation and division of our society with the ongoing idiocy of calling anyone who questions the situation as "far right" - thank you America once again for exporting your social problems to the easily influenced!

We now live in a country where reasonable questions are ignored, misrepresented or demonised, and a Government seeking to formalise this arrangement with its imminent "hurt feelings" legalisation - McEntee once again!

But ultimately Ireland will never be the same, and while immigration and social change can certainly be a good and welcome thing, too much too soon - without planning, discussion or even logic - can be disastrous as we've now seen.

The problems we've seen are only the beginning. In another decade or so we'll be in the same position as countries like the UK, Germany or France. No I'm not clairvoyant, but I know that Ireland isn't special and we won't somehow magically escape the same outcomes - if anything they may well be worse given the distinct lack of quality in our TDs and their tendency to make a situation that much worse by not only repeating the mistakes of those others, but adding an "Irish twist" to compound them.

I did say several years back though that immigration would be the key electoral issue yet with the way we were heading, and that FG are even more dangerous in Government than even FF - which is why they're never elected on their own merit but as a protest vote, and only until they remind us why that is...... And here we are!

Our country has always been far from perfect - too limited by a "need" for approval or validation by our betters (whether it be keeping up with the neighbours or subservience to our "friends" in the EU), too parochial (rarely thinking beyond our own gate or immediate family), and too quick to hand over the reins (to the Church, then the EU), but at least we did previously have some level of input and control over the direction of things... Now we have overpaid TDs who forget they represent us signing us up for things we weren't asked about and which they have no mandate for, and a country falling apart in many ways while they do so.

Charity and welcoming others in need is all very noble and worthwhile... But not when it comes at the expense of those asked to support that generosity, and not when the consequences are so severe that the fundamental social contract is jeapordised in the process which is exactly where we find ourselves.

Unfortunately though, as I said at the start of this post, things are already beyond the point of return. Now all we can do is try to control the damage and deal with the changes that will inevitably result - most of which will unfortunately be negative as we've seen elsewhere.

The Ireland we knew is gone. The only thing we can do is remember how we got here and use our limited say in proceedings wisely over the next year or so.

Last nightclub in Tramore, Waterford set to close and be converted into more hotel rooms. Hotel has been closed to the public for some time now with the majority of the previous bar/nightclub space already converted into rooms.

Do we actually have to go round the houses on this again

Are you genuinely saying if supply is already majorly strained that massively increasing demand isn’t also an issue? Junior cert economics pop quiz - what happens when demand spikes while supply remains the same?? Price rises for everyone

It’s always the same line trotted out by you lot. No, I am not blaming the refugees for the state of our housing woes. But they do exacerbate those woes, that is a fact.

We should be increasing supply while constraining demand as much as possible. We’re barely increasing supply and not at all to the level required for the extra demand we’re actively importing. It’s actually so bloody dumb I can hardly believe it.