Cold Case Review of Sophie Tuscan du Plantier murder to proceed. **Threadbans in OP**

Red circle Sophie's house.

Red arrow pump house.

Blue arrow body found

Who are you quoting?

So she was up, dressed and about for the morning. Why didn`t she put on any socks? Middle of winter. Tiled floors. She was a hardy soul then.

That piece don`t make it so. I don`t recall Josephine Hellen ever saying that the relationship between Sophie and Alfie was "fractious". I do recall her saying that they were friends.

I have to admit that after reading an article from the Irish Mirror posted upthread I am a bit gobsmacked by this bit of info:

‘Gardai are also looking at the relationship between Sophie and a male friend whose wife was extremely jealous.’

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/garda-trace-french-speaker-scratches-28729258.amp

I’ve done a lot of reading on this case and this is the first time I have EVER heard about an apparently real instance of jealousy between Sophie and another woman. 

It happens to tie in with the theory that I am gravitating towards more and more, that Sophie was killed by a woman. The amount of injuries indicate both a very personal and very frenzied attack, in which the killer had to inflict over fifty injuries before resorting to the breezeblock to finish the job (which had the notable effect of destroying Sophie’s face).

There was no sexual aspect to the crime.

Tomi Ungerer was a friend of Sophie’s. She told friends she and the renowned artist were planning on working on a project together. 

Tomi Ungerer and his wife Yvonne were among the last people to see Sophie alive. But when did they see her? Yvonne says Sophie left the Ungerers at six pm, but Sophie had already been seen in the local pub at four pm AFTER leaving the Ungerers.

Did she in fact return to the Ungerers at some point in the evening? And that this is for some reason missing from the official timeline of her last movements?

Additionally her husband Daniel Toscan du Plantier said that Sophie in her last phone call told HIM that she left the Ungerers’ at half nine pm.

‘According to what she told me, she had returned home about 9.30pm, I suppose the Ungerers had kept her for dinner.’

Yvonne was the one who spread the story of Sophie being shaken by her vision of the ‘white lady’ that afternoon at Three Castle Head, which foreshadows death. 

The bottle of unopened wine found in a ditch nearby was a French wine you can’t get in Ireland but which is available in the French duty free. The Ungerers are French. 

There was an actual eyewitness account from a man at the petrol station in Skibbereen who saw Sophie with a man in her car, a man wearing an anorak. He was so tall that the top of his head touched the roof. He had his collar pulled up so you couldn’t see his face.

Someone mentioned that Sophie had no reason to disembark from her plane in Dublin as it was flying on to Cork after refuelling?

Except she did disembark in Dublin and was seen later that evening in Skibbereen with a mystery man in her car.

Did she pick someone up in Dublin? Someone she was giving a lift to down to the remote part of the south of Ireland where they both had homes? 

Here’s the petrol station guy’s account:

‘She caught my attention straight away because her looks were so striking. She was tiny, a very small woman.

“I filled the car with petrol for her. It only took £10 (Irish pounds) at the time. The man in the passenger seat paid for it through the window.

“The guards who I gave the statement to said that it couldn’t have been her as she was spotted in Ballydehob buying firewood close to the time I gave that day. We didn’t sell firewood at the time and that’s why I think she stopped there later on.

“Apparently, the man in question was no longer in the car with her.”

The garage owner added: “I’m 110% sure it was Sophie I saw that day. I have no doubt about it. I think that it’s very important that the gardai look into this sighting again.”

One thing that has always confused me about this is that gardai said Sophie couldn’t have been in two places at once. But Ballydehob and Skibbereen are less than fifteen minutes’ drive from each other. If anything the sighting of Sophie in Skibbereen at what the guards say was the SAME TIME as she was seen in Ballydehob pretty much confirms that it was in fact Sophie Toscan du Plantier that the witness saw in Skibbereen. What are the chances of a tiny blonde woman matching Sophie’s description being 15km away from a confirmed sighting of Sophie around the same time of day? She was clearly stopping at various petrol stations/shops on her way from Dublin to Toormore.

This means that there WAS a man with her in the car three days before her death.

So who was he?

Except there is cctv footage of her at Cork airport after 2pm. alone.

No source forthcoming for the "fractious" quote then?

There wasn't a man in the car with her.

That has been completely discarded, I think the witness could not even verify the correct date he saw her or whether the car was the same make or colour.

This thread is turning a bit daft, with people making up their own facts,

Stuff like she got off the plane in Dublin and traveled down to Cork with a man, or that the killer went to the house to use the phone.

Also where are people getting this information that there were breakfast items in her stomach, implying that the time of death was the morning?

I always thought an accurate time of death could never be established because of the length of time her body was left out and the delay in Dr Harbison getting to the location.

People are not making things up. They are referencing information cited in the case about the media. Now the information may have been superseded, it may not be true and can be challenged on that basis - but that doesn't mean the poster made them up, or it is their own invention.

Similarly there are claims in the media that:

Harbison's autopsy noted that the remains of a recently ingested meal of fruit and nuts were found in du Plantier's stomach.

That is where the 'breakfast items' reference comes from, this seems more like a breakfast meal than one taken late at night. But you could argue that it is something someone might have with a glass of wine at supper, if the fruit was say apple.