When a mentally-ill person decides not to take the medication.

Firstly, the most common medical treatment for long-term schizophrenia patients is delivered via intramuscular injection which lasts for a 10-12 weeks. For medical staff though, forcing anybody into any treatment is legally and ethically unenforceable unless they are a danger to themselves or others, in which case involuntary admission to a secure hospital is for three weeks only. One of the primary symptoms of schizophrenia is intense paranoia. It's a horrible affliction and the medical treatments are difficult to manage and take - it dulls senses, libido, saps energy etc. It's no surprise then that many schizophrenia sufferers will self-medicate with drugs or alcohol, resulting in case management by doctors and support staff being far more challenging.

You should be very careful in advocating that any group in society be medicated against their will.

To me it's the equivalent of getting behind a wheel locked out of your bin ,if a psychiatric patient is a known Violent offender and refuses to take their med then they have to be detained

I think they possibly could, sectioned and then detained until doctors are satisfied they wouldn't be any danger to the public,

There was a case a few years ago involving an Italian lady who visited the UK for a business conference and had a manic episode due to her being bipolar and pregnant, she was detained in the UK until she gave birth and then had her new born child taken into care and adopted, before being released and returned to Italy they wouldn't even let her family to take care of her child there grand child...

But yet they can't detain a violent and psychotic offender who won't take meds

And we allow bodily autonomy. Forcing someone to take meds has rarely been good when it's been done throughout history.

That is a very archaic way of thinking about mental health, and an attitude you'd expect to find in the comments section of the Daily Mail. Give your a head a wobble and think for a minute about the ramifications of what you're suggesting.

You want to essentially imprison someone without a trial? Because they won't take meds? You can see how dodgy that is. If someone doesn't take their meds and then acts in a way that is a danger to themselves or others, fine. But to preemptively say that everyone on meds has to take them or else they'll be locked up is completely different.

So forced medication is acceptable for people who are not sectioned, not under the care of the state?

That is a dodgy one and would be treatment on the cheap with the usual disasterous consequences.

Mentally ill people killing is not unusual in the UK. They are often targeted by "religious" group and indoctrinated into terrorism.

The UK has cut down on welfare, healthcare, just about everything that was supported by public spending is cut to the bone and there is a cost.

The other slight problem in addressing this is the blame culture that is now endemic in the UK. If someone needs treatment at a hospital it's their fault for being overweight, smoking, drinking etc.

Like so many other criminals and mentally ill threats to society the bloke in the post was known to the police, yet nothing was done.

Of course now the IQ zero's don't quite understand the implications and are doing exactly what Brit's are absolutely brilliant at, thirst for revenge and whinge about the subject of the sentence rather than the system that allowed him the opportunity.

It's the Btritish way now and will not change. In GB News this morning, [a popular nationalist source of drivel and employment for British MP's that should be working but are too incompetent], they are running a headline about France having it in for Brits over not giving them a visa waiver because of "Brexit punishment rules".

So all the poor numpties that screwed their country will blame the "new" EU "Brexit rules". Of course it does not occur to them that France is controlling it's borders something they thought the EU did not allow their government to do :-)

Such is the mindset and blame culture now and blame or vengeance will not replace care or justice even if the soma is shovelled down the "patients" throat.

Maybe they could bring lobotomy's back if the baying mob were not worried about undesirables getting freebies on the NHS :-)

I often thought that maybe there was a flaw in the logic when it was announced decades back. Were they not in the community when first afflicted anyway?

My "community" in my UK city consisted of drug dealers and an above average number of criminals. Not really the best kind of people to provide care I would think.

Frankly I would think that "care in the community" would be more of an opportunity to set up a retail outlet for druggies if the "patient" was living alone.

Maybe that's why the prison service is overwhelmed by the mentally ill?

Involuntary detention for mental illness is outlined under the Mental Health Act. I use the term 'mental health' because someone's situation might vary between prolonged periods of wellness and stability to unwellness and chaos depending on a variety of factors, of which medication might be only one.

If you believe that medication should be compulsory in certain cases, by all means you are free to do so. Where the line is, who does it benefit, who gets to decide - all these issues are ethically and legally problematic. There is no magic bullet. 'Lock them up if they're off meds' is a very blunt tool to try to work on a complex problem, given the historical approaches to those who are mentally unwell.

Given the recent scandal over the lack of available services for those who require voluntary admission, there is scant hope that those who require an involuntary response will receive it in a timely fashion or even that it will do much good.

Violent offenders should be left in the community and left to there own devices until they take a life or several because they refuse to take the meds to keep them stable,and when it does go wrong blame everyone from the victims to the authorities but absolving the attacker of any blame because of mental health,