Irish voters 'hostile' to poppy symbol

I celebrate nothing.

There is no point, a day happens, then 24 hours later another one comes along.

Many, many years ago I used to attend these quaint little do's for the drinking. I found it was not only easier to drink without attending these various functions, but I could drink a hell of a lot more and of a flavour and dizziness factor I could control selecting my own venues.

The last "do" I went to was in Camp, Kerry, just down the road. I came from England to be awarded a football medal. I hate the stupid game and even then was over sixteen stone, but it's a different story.

That was the last celebration here and probably England too.

I probably would attend anything concerned with my countries freedom. Although I'm against war, there is a point where people have to stand up against an aggressor or be wiped out.

Having said that if the IRA had a poppy day of their own, I still wouldn't buy one.

Just like they hijacked the word ULSTER.

I don't understand? Why off the mark?

Easter eggs off the mark?

Yes! they are but why mention it, I don't think the thread will start to veer to milk/ dark etc.

Or is it poppies?

The thread is about poppies, but it relates to them as a symbol. They are sold in November, but the idea, the philosophy, the motivations are not time limited.

You can substitute any symbol for a poppy and still be pretty much adhering to the run of things.

I do think that they are an interesting topic for discussion as British nationalism has had major very controversial effects in recent years and some will see the poppies interlinked with their other nationalistic baubles and ideas.

The red hand flag was the flag of the Ulster kings, famously the O'Neills from the 14thc, long before the plantations. It was used to rally the Gaelic tribes against the crown during the Nine Years War. Don't let the Billys have it - claim it back. It's ours.

The red hand appears on multiple family crests all over the island. You'll find far more claiming it as their own than dismissing it.

Today we had the usuals in the British Media(Daily Mail and the likes) attack James McClean for not wearing a poppy again, while ignoring the numerous other players who refuse to wear a poppy

They have then printed numerous articles about Celtic fans singing "Pro IRA songs" during the minutes silence at their game today

The song the Celtic fans were singing was Aiden McAnespie who was murdered by the British army on his way to a GAA match, and the lyrics have nothing got to do with the IRA

Journalism has gotten so bad they don't even know what songs they were singing these days, the fake outrage is ridiculous

It's all a bit tyrannical. Anyone appearing on live TV would probably be cancelled if they didn't have a Poppy.

It's not a Celtic/Rangers thing, you can't force something on people

Hearts in Scotland booed the minutes silence when the pope died as they didn't agree with it

A good example is everytime Liverpool play in a Cup Final at Wembley, their fans boo God Save The Queen/King because of the the way the City has been treated by the establishment.

Working class people don't take orders from people telling them what they must do

Since the British army murdered innocent civilians in the streets on my home city, then covered it up for 40+ years, you'll forgive me for smiling every time Celtic fans disrupt the minutes silence. It's causing a lot less pain than the British Army caused around the world.

Maybe stop forcing the poppy and remembering murderers down people's throats?

Remember it if you want, wear a poppy if you want, but don't make it compulsory, which it now is in the UK.

Well Done Celtic fans, better than some pretentious UNICEF logo.

We live in a shared society. Some people might respect things that you dont. Is hard to respect people respecting things you dont?

Working class dont take orders? No they Just take free houses from the state and free money for doing nothing eh?

Why are people so insistent upon associating the poppy with the British Army? It's become a global symbol of remembrance

Because people in the North still remember having to identify their bullet riddled love ones and celebrating the people who did that may still touch a bit of a nerve.

How that is so hard to understand or brings up the same old scutter conversation every year is baffling.

Some people don't want to subscribe to the bollíx for various different reasons, some because their sons head was blown off by a sniper others because they think it's a bunch of old fanny.

Who every wants to wear the stupid looking yoke let them, whoever doesn't let them.

It is really simple.

where are the funds raised by the sale of those poppies going?

If it was to 'the brave Mujahideen fighters of Afghanistan' would you have a problem with some Americans choosing not to wear one?

+1 to this.

The poppy, originally a symbol of remembrance of the horrible, industrial-scale slaughter of millions in WW1, has become a militaristic emblem, with almost tyrannical compulsion to wear the symbol in Britain. Those in the public eye, who decline to wear it are ridiculed and attacked. Just look at any British TV during November, very few presenters are not wearing it.

It really has no place in Ireland.