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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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    #30152
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 82,396 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121679693#Comment_121679693

    He will die off and his children will inherit the litany of appeals until they are all penniless

    I hear from the comments section of reddit however he may have to put the $83.3M in escrow/bond in order to appeal the case, allegedly per NY state law - which is used to dealing with organized criminal enterprises. edit: yes, true, per Carrol's lawyer

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK1maaZbpe8


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    #30153
    amandstu
    Registered Users Posts: 3,519 ✭✭✭amandstu


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121679932#Comment_121679932

    Yes ,I heard about the escrow/bond requirement.

    Are we into double or quits territory?

    If he maintains his behaviour can he be hauled up again before the courts for the same reason and the fine increases each time until he modifies his behaviour?


    Separately I notice his pal(?) and donor Vince McMahon of the WWE may be embroiled in some kind of a nasty sex scandal.

    Including allegations of some kind of arse to head dumping ...can I have heard that correctly?

    Makes Trump seem positively edifying...a breath of fresh air.



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    #30154
    everlast75
    Registered Users Posts: 19,396 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1751044280406167692?s=20

    Giulani was reading boards clearly...



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    #30155
    Igotadose
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    Steve Bannon is in legal hot water in a number of jurisdictions. Contempt of Congress, fraud, not paying his lawyers, ...


    https://statuskuo.substack.com/p/steve-bannon-you-in-danger?r=1zr8b&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web




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    #30156
    Flaneur OBrien
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    83 million reasons to be a bit cheerful today.

    If he is still the frontrunner by end of Feb, I'll be shocked. Like others have said, you cannot win the presidency without independents and they do not like Trump.

    If Republicans want a sniff at winning independent voters, they have to start siding with Haley. Even though they'll still lose because the MAGA base will probably write in Trump.



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    #30157
    everlast75
    Registered Users Posts: 19,396 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1751044359569490418?s=20

    Where is the poster that said Biden was doing an awful job on immigration/the border?

    Deal struck, subject to house chair putting to the floor.



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    #30158
    pixelburp
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121680070#Comment_121680070

    But isn't there a chance the GOP shoot it down on the senate floor cos of Trump's paranoia / diktat? We'll certainly see how far they put party ahead of country - especially given the issue is THE issue modern GOP hardcore are obsessed about.

    As to waking up in the morning and finding Trump the rapist now slapped with an extra 83 million? Shame he'll probably wriggle out of it. Declare bankruptcy and that's that?

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    #30159
    Leroy42
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    He can't declare bankruptcy. 1st off, that doesn't remove the liability.

    2nd, it would mean a court appointed accountant would have access to all his financial assets and would discharge them on the best way to generate some funds, which would all go to cover the liability. No way Trump is going to that route. If for no other reason than he is probably going to lose millions on the NY fraud trial and will want to hide from that.

    Any future earnings would also be attached.

    Politically it would be a disaster. "You bankrupted yourself, why would anyone let you in charge of the country" is the line that will be pumped out continuously. Of course it won't make any difference to MAGA crowd, but its the independents he needs and that certainly won't help.



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    #30160
    blackcard
    Registered Users Posts: 3,939 ✭✭✭blackcard


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121679613#Comment_121679613

    You can get Biden at 2/1 to win the presidency, twice the odds of Trump. Despite everything he has done he is well ahead in combined polling of Reps., Dems and Republicans. At this stage, there can't be many who don't have an opinion about Trump. I fear there is a high probability, he will win the election



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    #30161
    Rawr
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121680197#Comment_121680197

    Politically I don’t know if declaring bankruptcy would hurt him more than anything else that’s been reported on him. It might galvanise the independent / moderate vote against him more since most people perceive bankruptcy as “failure in business”, but it won’t matter a jot to the MAGA cult. Even with bankruptcy he can tell those brainwashed nitwits that he’s “very rich” and they’d never question it.



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    #30162
    eightieschewbaccy
    Registered Users Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121680222#Comment_121680222

    The odds were in favour of Clinton winning. Equally the odds were in favour of Trump on the night of the last election. I'm not sure if it's particularly accurate as a gauge.



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    #30163
    everlast75
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    Screenshot_20240127-100257.png

    Wow



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    #30164
    Quin_Dub
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121680222#Comment_121680222

    I fear there is a high probability, he will win the election

    Whilst anything is possible in the bizarro world of the Electoral college , the odds are not in Trumps favour.

    The economy is steadily improving and the benefits are being seen by the average voter.

    More and more Independents are being turned off Trump because of his actions.

    The GOP are being exposed as a deeply unserious political party who have zero interest in actually governing - Their current nonsense regarding a border deal being a case in point.

    And the "election" campaigns haven't even started yet.



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    #30165
    everlast75
    Registered Users Posts: 19,396 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121680222#Comment_121680222

    "At this stage, there can't be many who don't have an opinion about Trump"


    You say that like it's a good thing?



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    #30166
    briany
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121680197#Comment_121680197

    I really don't think Trump is attempting to appeal to the independent voters. If he were, his rhetoric would probably be a bit softer. Moreover, there is no noise from within Trump's circle or the MAGA movement that suggests compromise.

    Therefore I can only conclude that if it is truly the plan of Trump and Co to be elected once again, that plan does not include the moderate vote. That alone should be setting off big alarm bells.

    The thing people are still not talking about is what measures MAGA might try to take in swing states to suppress the vote against them, independent or otherwise, be it legislation that restricts voting by post or weird gerrymandering or putting partisan people in positions that can influence elections at the local level. General fookery under the banner of election security, in other words.



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    #30167
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,453 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121680273#Comment_121680273

    Indeed, that was definitely the plan, which is why the losses by people like Kari Lake et al were so important in 2022.

    Trump failed to get his loyalists elected all over the place.

    People who would have rigged the election in his favour, but flue the most part they aren't there to do it

    By the end of next week, Trump is going to be looking at close to $450M in fines in New York alone once Engoron hands down the judgement in the Business fraud case.

    The money he is spending on Legal proceedings is killing him.

    It is reckoned that he's using 50%+ of every dollar he raises on Legal costs already.

    It's unsustainable and there isn't a big ball of donor cash out there waiting for him.

    It's why he so angry with Haley, the longer she stays in the game, the longer he's locked out of accessing GOP central funding. Money he desperately needs to pay his bills.



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    #30168
    Carlito Brigantes Tale
    Registered Users Posts: 219 ✭✭Carlito Brigantes Tale


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121679613#Comment_121679613

    He's going to win against Biden unfortunately. There are terrible signs Biden is losing it mentally over the last few weeks. Larry Donnelly has talked about it recently and the democrats are finding it increasingly difficult to hide Joe away. America having these two running for office is frankly an embarrassment to a once great nation.



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    #30169
    pixelburp
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121679693#Comment_121679693

    More than that, he seems like someone who's never happy, even when he DOES get his own way. Victories or success still involve crowing or personal abuse, he's such a Sore Winner. He's always so angry, so unhappy.

    In fact thinking about that video with the MAGA lady on the mobility scooter, the whole movement seems one of perpetual anger and sense of the world somehow wronging them by existing.

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121680269#Comment_121680269

    If it worked for Thatcher? Maybe?

    "Don't you think he looks tired?"

    😂



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    #30170
    MICKEYG
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    Is he allowed use funds raised for election purposes to fund private legal proceedings?

    Not that it would bother him or his grift but could that invoke further legal cases?



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    #30171
    Quin_Dub
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121680325#Comment_121680325

    Great post!!!

    Kick off with a bit of the old "Joe is losing it" and will be beaten by the criminal rapist who thinks he beat Obama in the last election , who thinks Biden started WW2 and that Nikki Haley was in charge of Congress on January 6th.

    Throw in a bit of "They're both terrible" to seem like you aren't a Trump supporter just to be safe.

    Top work.



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    #30172
    Igotadose
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121680325#Comment_121680325

    Larry Donnelly? Who? Some Irish guy no one in the US has heard of? Can he even vote in a US election?



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    #30173
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,453 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121680342#Comment_121680342

    Depends on where the money is donated to.

    Money raised specifically for the election can't be used, but if it goes to a PAC or to him directly he can.

    The tiny print on his endless emails looking for money is important.

    Once he's officially the nominee , it will be much harder for him to do it, but right now he can do what he wants with the money for the most part

    He'll just " rent" Mar a Lago to his campaign for millions of dollars as a work around anyway.



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    #30174
    astrofool
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121680325#Comment_121680325

    Very low effort, at least link to Donnelly talking about it or provide examples of the hiding of Biden.

    Otherwise it's typical MAGA loon talk.



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    #30175
    mikefromcork
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121680325#Comment_121680325

    I've noticed your ridiculous both sidesing (with ne'er a word about the rapist of course) recently and now with you constantly repeating this Larry Donnelly nonsense I looked at your history. You seem nice.

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121620287#Comment_121620287



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    #30176
    briany
    Registered Users Posts: 13,709 ✭✭✭✭briany


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121680304#Comment_121680304

    My question is not just about the governorship. It's also about what, if anything, is being done at every level to put a MAGA loyalist into a position of authority where they could influence electoral outcomes even by a small amount, because small amounts still contribute to a snowball effect. Or what legislation is being put in place in swing states where there is enough of a Republican/MAGA majority to reduce access to postal voting and early voting under vague concerns about 'election security'. It's about what will happen on election day if you have all these MAGA heads deputising themselves as poll watchers with the intent to intimidate and interfere in order to get their desired outcome.



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    #30177
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,502 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121680411#Comment_121680411

    Concern about Biden's health is the latest MAGA line.

    Meanwhile, their idols looks like this:

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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121680326#Comment_121680326

    That's the impression I got from reading about fascism and Nazism in the 1930's. Like MAGA, it's an inherently destabilising ideology. It does not exist to provide stability, economic growth or any other form of security. It's about anger, grievance and violence. The concerning point is that the former two ideologies sank like the Titanic for the most part post WW2 but even if Trump gets it in court, the loons remain and there are quite a few of them.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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    #30178
    eightieschewbaccy
    Registered Users Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121680325#Comment_121680325

    This is conveniently ignoring that Haley has been going after Trump's own mental capacity in the last week or so because the nonsense he's spouting is making even less sense than it did previously did. In his case they're not random ten seconds of out of context video in hour long speeches.


    Also it says a lot that supposedly on the fence posters are never willing to comment on the fact he's raped somebody. Instead it's almost a celebration of him having supporters that want to finance the rapist.



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    #30179
    everlast75
    Registered Users Posts: 19,396 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1749534483915669706?s=20

    Trying to prove you're mentally fit by mistaking who the white house doctor is now and hasn't been for 5 years



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    #30180
    bucketybuck
    Registered Users Posts: 18,436 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121680083#Comment_121680083

    But thats the genius of it. The GOP have very little to hit Biden with so they go with souped up claims about the border.

    Then Biden comes out with a bi-partisan bill agreed and promising very clear and serious action on the border.

    If it goes through he looks strong on the border. If they block it then why don't the GOP care about the border? And why are they blocking their own bill?

    Block or don't block, it is win win for Biden.

    And as a side issue, it is yet again an example of Biden getting things done even in the face of the obstructionist GOP. He got a bi-partisan bill agreed on the issue they were trying to hang him with, that is genuinely impressive.

    And it is something the rapist could never do.



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    #30181
    briany
    Registered Users Posts: 13,709 ✭✭✭✭briany


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121680361#Comment_121680361

    Larry Donnelly is an American citizen who currently works as a law lecturer in NUIG and is a guest on the Pat Kenny radio show just about every week where he is invariably asked to speak about the current American political situation.

    But he says himself that it's not a particularly great situation to have two men around the 80 years old mark who are vying for the top political job in the US, and I think most would basically agree with that.

    For myself, if it must be that choice, then I'd opt for the one who isn't a vengeful manchild with no real principles other than self-aggrandisation and who isn't under several federal indictments. It's not that those things are just red flags, but time was that you wouldn't even get out of the starting gate with them over you.



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