Public Pay Talks - see mod warning post 4293

Not bitter for a start. And certainly not bitchy. I wouldnt have time to sit around the coffee table to gossip about how many times someone was late or their sick leave.

Inflation is 0% since the start of the deal. People on this thread will go, the effective increase in 2024 is 3.08% and inflation is predicted to be 3.5%, we’re losing money with this deal. When in fact your comparing two completely different numbers that have zero relationship to one another.

This deal doesn’t address the outstanding 6.5%. This deal does address inflation over the next 2.5 years. Easily.

Like others have mentioned, I'll vote no to this, but expect it to pass comfortably. I feel the figure of 10.25% is being mis-sold. When the sectoral bargaining is taken into account, it's really only a guarantee of 9.25% - there's no guarantee of the extra 1%. I'm also not in favour of a pay agreement that is in excess of two years - we're getting a reasonable 4.25% this year, however, towards the end of the agreement, we are only being drip fed 1% in February 2026 and a further 1% in June 2026.

It will be interesting to see what the turnout will be when it comes to the ballot. Looking back on the Forsa ballot for the last pay agreement, the turnout was very poor. Only 67% of people eligible to vote did, so for whatever reason one third of people eligible to vote didn't - https://www.forsa.ie/bm061022/

I've lost you. Are you trying to argue there is no correlation between inflation and salary rises?

I notice you have avoided answering the question.

Have you rejoined the Union since we last discussed it on January 9th, or not?

All that is required is a yes or no answer.

Because if not, you're lying about having a vote, and FYI, "an opinion" is not the same as a vote.

Everything else you say to me, frankly, is irrelevant to me, though making misogynistic remarks is a new low.

Was that aimed at me?

Yes i am now in the union. A few reasons why i rejoined.

Unlike the pseu and ahcp etc id never cross a picket. Regardless of my views on potential strike action i wouldnt break a picket. Im not a scab.

Ok. That's your opinion and you are entitled to it. I can appreciate where you are coming from.

We’ve no measurement until it’s measured in February by the CSO. It’s a discrete system.

Inflation for 2024 is predicted to be 2.7%. Assuming it’s linear, that’s 0.23% per month. Were being given 2.25% on day one.

This deal will easily cover inflation over the period of the deal.

this deal does not cover the outstanding 6.5%.

When simple figures confuse someone there is probably no point trying to argue with them

As for the deal - I don't think it's great but I don't think we'll get better so a yes from me.

Unions have failed me previously in the past so have no high regard for them/

That's a lot better than I was going to reply

I was thinking why not have a threesome and then it's an increase of 29.75%

Shit if one was even a little more adventurous and didn't just dabble in polygamy but really committed the sky is the limit...if you had 4 the increase is 37%😂...that's absoluting beating the living **** out of inflation

Cant believe noone thought of this before as a way to get unlimited free money!

This deal sounds great on paper. Media reporting salary increases of 10%+. It is true that your salary will be 9.8% higher on 1st June 2026 but the reality is that you're only coming out with 5.7% more money than if there had been no pay increases at all and this is over 30 months.

The actual pay increases are 3.35% for 2024, 3.1% for 2025 and 1% to June 30th 2026. Hardly jaw dropping figures and these figures won't be enough to stem the flow of emigrating teachers, nurses, and other essential public servants.

I'll vote against this deal but the reality is it will pass.

Has coffee with a teacher mate of mine. He and colleagues are delighted with the deal. Teachers are never usually happy so that speaks a lot.

For the posters who think its a poor deal ill ask again. What figure would you have settled for?

Youre not delighted. People have differing views.

The only negative views i have heard about the package have been on boards.

What % would you be happy with?

What percentage though?

Give a figure.

Why is only 5.7% more money in your pocket over the next 2 years a bad thing?

What's the equivalent inflation calculation?