Ian Bailey RIP - threadbans in OP

I would totally agree. It's remote area IB was inquisitive and I'm sure Alfie was feeding that for him as well. But again we are at stage now they are searching his apartment like for anything further and maybe use enhanced DNA samples on remaining items but we are still are very long shot here to turn Original DPP towards conviction. Maybe it's going be scenario they get some more general evidence which points it at bailey and close out file. But we are still at serious loss without anything substantial.

Nobody said the DPP was infallible. Merely they are proof your claim has no credibility.

If a DPP didnt find there was a case v Bailey entirely valid and reaonable for posters here to think so also.

Were the Guards infallible in the Kerry Babies case?

When it came to Maurice McCabe.

The idea that the Guards or any police force must be right cos of secret knowledge (secret because it wasnt in the DPP report) is without foundation.

And if they couldnt disclose it to the DPP it raises all kinds of why not, and the safety and reliability of it.

It doesn't matter how many times you repeat it, there is no missing murder weapon.

OMG he was an Elvis Costello fan- he MUST be guilty so 😀

The pathology report says that Sophie was hit with something light like a stick or poker initially.

The slate and block were used to finish her off.

So, there is a missing weapon.

There isn't "overwhelming circumstantial evidence".

There's some weak evidence pointing at him. That's why the DPP didn't prosecute.

Looks like Bailey himself was also involved in the conspiracy to have him in the frame for the murder.

In his own words describing his heinous assault on his long term partner just 7 months before Sophies murder he wrote...

"I severely damaged you and made you feel death was near."

"As I write I know there is something badly wrong with me."

"I feel a sense of sickness at seeing my account of that dreadful night. I actually tried to kill her."

"I am totally, totally obsessed by sex. I love my drugs and adore alcohol."

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/i-am-an-animal-on-two-feet-ian-baileys-black-diary-shines-a-lurid-light-on-his-sexual-fantasies/a1968786615.html

Why don`t you try make a constructive argument? It would carry more weight.

I’m still waiting on yours that you alluded to a few posts back- I’m a conspiracy theorist for doubting Bailey is a murderer according to you but you haven’t provided any evidence to support this - so the ball is in your court- I’ve posted a lot of reasons why there’s considerable doubt here in this thread - you’re just name calling people

I've always felt it was bailey. I wanted it to be him..it was easy..media had led me to believe so..he looked like that person. He was there , suspicious and he actively was getting involved in sort of self gratifying way..but what's the point..zero DNA, various other theories.. innocent till proven. Happy to take threads here Vs DPP Vs guards Vs all other sightings....and it nearly doesn't yield anything else. Take for example her husband Daniel. Know nothing about him..and yet not turning up for her murder is on par with anything on bailey or others.

The reminder of other strange neighbours especially the guy only living mile from Sophie who had done terrible thing.

So we need that piece of evidence that places bailey there or others

The only other example I can give is Joe Reilly case, completely going along with searching for clues yet and his appearance on TV showed her mother not on line with his thinking. (similar maybe to lot of theories bailey used come up people not be living him) but to catch joe reilly on mobile phone mast was nothing short of amazing beside crime when he was using alibi he was in city. So it's really what we need...otherwise I can safely say guardai will think twice about doctoring any remaining evidence of this case considering the shambles they have made of it. They want one final clue or that enhanced DNA , if they don't get it..the final report will be inconclusive as I really don't think they will bring much else..but I'm hoping

The trouble is I've followed this case from the start, read absolutely everything that's been printed on this case, from the start Senan has been sure of the perpetrator of this crime and has never been shy of saying so and that's a bad place for a journalist to start from, I like many here remain of the view that there was not enough evidence to convict Bailey in a court of law, exactly the view of the Dp.. There's no conspiracy theories just looking at the bald facts as presented,and to be honest anyone who produces an Ian Dury and the Blockheads lp as some sort of evidence against Bailey is blinded by his intense dislike for the man and must have a neck as thick as an asses collar to brand other posters as conspiracy theorists

The DPP isn`t a conspiracy theorist at all. He doubted the veracity of a lot of witness testimony and of course he was judging them from written statements. He interviewed none of them. When many of these witnesses were tested under oath in later court cases and indeed subjected to cross examination by Bailey`s legal representatives, what they had to say stood up under scrutiny and Bailey lost big time. The proof of the pudding is in the eating as they say.

Over 20 witnesses directly contradicted Bailey under oath in the first libel case. His only legal victory had nothing to do with testimony coming out of west Cork. A couple of papers said he assaulted his ex, but they couldn`t substantiate it.

If this case didn’t have the notoriety to it, the publicity, the virtual soap opera feel to it. It would just have been another unsolved murder with a “likely” suspect -,outside of the family and friends impacted by the killing, it would have fallen from the collective memory and consciousness of the Irish public - we certainly wouldn’t be talking about it here today, and we’d all assume Gardai had it in hand, only that they just don’t have that missing piece of the jigsaw to get it across the line- poor guards we’d say, hope they get a breakthrough one day soon

For me, like all other major crimes, you assume Gardai are doing the best job they can in solving them - you don’t expect to learn about methods and so called evidence that even a keystone cop would laugh at- it’s actually quite worrying and you start to ask the question, what else do we not know about ?

When you lose faith in your own police force, the society you’re living in becomes a much more scary place to be.

Id like to see a lot more accountability-GSOC powers need to be ramped up - for example instead of requesting documents for an enquiry, and waiting months with no response whilst the Gardai laugh at them, they need to start walking in the door and just taking what they’re entitled to - our Garda watchdog has lost its teeth and has forgotten how to growl

I totally know where your coming from. Like its massive injustice to Sophie to not have any answer to final moments of her life and worse still I'm saying here that that answer could have been lot more forthcoming had it not been for the way it was handled by our own police. I can't blame them alone , it's not right , they are trying to find information but they should have tightened the processes immediately on this case and not following random operation of telling witnesses what to say. It's worse that having bad witness in first place than doctoring statements thereafter. Like if I had been there and out of my depth , I get big guys in from all cities Dublin Cork and elsewhere. Remember this was year of Veronica guerin..and established of CAB. We had man power, we had experience. It just wasn't applied in right way. Like say even bailey being suspect early on..then why was he still allowed report and gather clues on case..is that even normal..

Alfie is hardly going to say he and Sophie didn’t see eye to eye, is he? You’re probably aware of the misunderstanding over the ownership of Alfie’s shed. He had to use the lane along the back wall of her house to access his shed and field, right outside her kitchen window. For obvious reasons it’s only Alfie’s version was available.

If you took it from the Netflix film 20 + years later why would quote it as being from her Garda statement in Jan 97?

Unless you put up that statement it will look as though you imagined that what she told Sheridan in the film is what’s in her statement in 1997.

In other words you will have made it up!

Edited; typo