Deposit return scheme (recycling)

Yes, I understand that, but what happens the excess funds, just up the Directors remuneration or some “consultants” fees, so the company does not make a profit, or do they have this all worked out so perfectly that the income/outcome balances, I doubt it.

Thank you for laying it out more eloquently than I could.

Re-turn is owned by the producers, they can't take profit out of it, so its in their interest to ensure it costs as little as possible to run and sets the fees as low as possible.

No, they'll put the producer fees up. There is no legislative basis for anything else.

It won't. It hasn't anywhere else. Producers carry the cost, less anything left from unclaimed returns - that's how it always works.

Step To Far. Final Thoughts:

Its almost Dday but its not for me. Twenty years now of separating and washing our rubbish and now they 'incentivise' us again to do more separation. I don't use a commercial waste service for reasons too long to go into here. I have been doing the right thing but am sick of tripping over bags all over the kitchen and shed etc. So I won't be doing any extra separating. Kinda sad really because 30 years ago I was a business owner who had new plastic boxes delivered every month and tried so hard to get suppliers to take back used ones for recycling but no one was interested. So I am not adverse to the general idea but all this green/save the planet stuff has just gone too far now. Lets smile though...checkout Youtube/George Carlin/ Save the Planet.

I will be forfeiting the 'incentive' and console myself with the fact that I am saving €25 per week using the new LocalLink bus service twice a week instead of my car which more than compensates for it. So thank you Eaman Ryan for that anyway.

Happy recycling everyone. 😉

Yes, five different types of waste!

Well the theory is that you're going back to the supermarket in any case for next week's shop so you return it then.

The theory ignores the increasing number of people who get deliveries. And for people who shop only in small local shops who are exempt for returns - then they are being pushed now to go to a large supermarket for the return. This could lead to some people switching where they shop, to a more distant supermarket that has an RVM.

My can crusher that Ive been using for several years will be redundant in a few days when this pain in the balls begins. Has anyone seen cheap plastic crates for sale that are designed to hold 24 empty cans?

I'm sure Aldi or Lidl will have them on sale soon enough haha

I don't have a massive issue with this, but I tend not to do a big shop, just pick up items when I get the bus home and pass the supermarket. I guess I'll just plan a day to bring the cans back. Maybe!

The standard size plastic folding crate will hold 24 cans with a bit to spare.

If you have one of the old 24 can slab cardboard bases it will hold the cans in place and you can use a bit of random cardboard to fill the gaps to the side of the crate.

The smaller size crate will hold 15 cans with a similar arrangement but you will need to find a suitable cardboard base to fit it.

The smaller crates have the added advantage of two folding handles at the top so you can carry them in one hand more easily than the standard ones

Nothing new here with that concept,

In 1956, manufacturing relief was introduced for companies who manufactured and exported, they paid no CT on the exported piece.

A factory in the village where I was born made farm gates

My neighbour was a steel stockholder who imported tractors and other stuff from the UK, including the farm gates made in the village.

He could sell the farm gates that he bought in England to local farmers cheaper than they could be bought in the village hardware

Just a heads-up to Dunnes and Supervalu shoppers, the cost of the deposit does not count towards your spend and save total e.g. if you're trying to hit a €50 spend to get €10 off.

Where was there any implication it should have?

I pointed it out as someone might be totting up the amount to get to €25 or whatever, and include the deposit, and get caught out at the till.

So right back at you - "People are just looking for reasons to complain."

There was no implication it should count. None. This is just self discrediting nonsense now.

So right back at you - "People are just looking for reasons to complain."

Well given you are wrong in what you just said I think you misunderstand. The vouchers are the same as cash and go towards spend and save. The deposit amount does not count as spending at the shop.

Yes you are correct. My original point stands though. There will be people who wont be aware of it for their first shop on Thursday morning.

So you agree the OP was implying people would think the deposit went forward to shop and save? He claims he wasn't implying that

So you implied people would think deposits would be counted as sales. I asked why anyone would be that stupid given it is not a sale by the store.