The new recycling system

I'm in full agreement with that view. I certainly will not be carting an empty can around with me on the street. I dont carry a man bag and certaintly wont be putting it into my pocket. It will get crushed and placed in the nearest public recycling bin. Of course maybe these may be removed in future to encourage people to head to a RVM but if that happens I'd be concerned more cans will end up in landfill. Time will tell how the 15 cent deposit will influence people's behaviour over time.

I remember, when the plastic bag levy was initially introduced, watching people scuttle around in the rain with disintegrating paper bags scattering contents all over the street. After this initial phase people quickly adapted to using bags for life to avoid this madness. Let's see how people adapt to this scheme.

exactly, well said! after all its your rubbish and you are free to dispose of it any way you desire, within the confinds of the law of course. Even recycling itself is a voluntary practice and they're lucky enough you're doing that.

but low key on a side note i wanna ask you about this fictional scenerio, if a person (not saying who) happened to live nearby you, and offered to buy your cans and bottles off of you for 5 cent a piece undamaged, would you be willing to sell your discarded cans/bottles to them for 5cent a piece? atleast you'd be getting back something. even though very little

That doesn't prove that the consultation wasn't listened to.

If you didn't make a submission you really can't gripe about the result.

So he/she takes a bus home after work and then another bus to the corner shop? Yeah it's not convenient for them you're dead right. Mind you this situation is probably representative of less than 1% of the population

What's done in the Netherlands is you can return stuff en masse to their equivalent of civic amenity sites, and they EFT you the refund. Bypasses the voucher concept, avoids the sites handling cash - the one I use doesn't even take cash at the gate since the pandemic.

Councils would have to take on some cost in doing this as you wouldn't fund that from the manual return payment.

That would be too sensible though and alleviate some issues certain people might have!

To be completely honest about it, I was not aware that a public consultation was taking place. First I heard about this was around the time of the first post I made in this thread in December 23.

I'd think a lot on this thread would give you a similar story.

exactly, i was'nt made aware of this either. but in fairness i don't even watch tv lol.

i was made aware about covid despite not watching tv or radio at the time, i was also made aware of other irish/non global/non world wide events, but never made aware of the consultation phase of this scheme. this could have been intentional

i know many who would have objected to this, alot of the people who already recycle at home would have rejected for starters. but then again would their rejection to this scheme have even made a difference?

the limit would be how much space is left in the machines

What would it cost to send a leaflet to every household and business, would that not be more beneficial to the general public before they just realise on whatever day next month they just have to live with another random forced upon them government initiative. At least some might have read it and known where to object if they wanted to.

I would hope it could be but I doubt there will be any hunger for that unless when people see it being implemented have a go at their local politicians which is unlikely in Ireland, just sit back and get shafted as usual.

sadly no, unless you mean can one have their recycleables delivered directly to an RVM manchine, that would require a courier or giving them to someone you know who'd be willing to go and visit the RVM on your behalf and recycle them there

I think the poster means can you deliver directly to the re-turn recycling plant? If that's what they mean I doubt it and even if you could you would lose the deposits.

thats a really good idea, if my bin company would have contacted me about this issue i would have found out and considered it greatly, the consulation things. also it would have been in the bin companys best interests as it affects the value of their recycleables the currently recieve

Have you been on a rush hour train or bus