"average Dublin house prices should fall to ‘the €300,000 mark" according to Many Lou McD.

unprecedented economy growth.

So can you please clarify that you are specifically excluding the people who came to Ireland to work?

IT workers aren't and will never be "critical skills employment" and these workers already have to get Visas to live and work in the country.

I don't think the people living in hotels are driving up house prices too much...

Not all migrants are created equal. Its a deliberate political tactic to lump them all under the one umbrella as beneficial financially, but in reality there are huge differences in the impact different nationalities have on the Irish economy.

If you set the very real housing crisis aside the unemployment rate for French or Swedish immigrants for example, at under 7% in the last CSO statistics from 2016, would agree fully with you. They do add to the economy.

With an unemployment rate of 63% for Congolese, 45% for Saudi Arabians, or 43% for Nigerian immigrants they most certainly aren't helping the economy - they're a massive financial drain.

Its completely logical and reasonable to be in favour of letting in more migrants who actually work here, while being against letting in those who don't. Especially during this housing crisis.

The 20k a year asylum seekers, by and large, are almost all in the latter not financially beneficial to the state camp. People entering the country with essential skills, like Philipino nurses or Indian workers in the tech sector, get visas to come here legally. Nobody is calling for a clamp down on them.

Removing all the migrants would have 0 impact on FDI?

Try hiring in IT at the moment and come back to us.

"direct threat to our culture" Ah, you are one of them. 'nuff said, no point in trying logic against a zealot.

They were two example nationalities. Some individual countries might be relatively small numbers, but they all add up quickly. I also see you've deliberately ignored the third nationality I mentioned, Nigerians, to make your point. The 21,000 Nigerian people (with a 43% unemployment rate) don't suit your narrative? Or the 15,000 Pakistani people, with an unemployment rate of 34%?

We have literally tens of thousands of non-Irish nationals unemployed here, adding nothing to the state, being a large financial drain, and taking up housing. What benefit are they to the state during a housing crisis, when every house is needed?

As of 2017 (and these figures have only climbed since) 32% of the Dublin City council housing list was foreign born. 35% of the South Dublin council housing list was foreign born. Fingal county council stop releasing figures on this when it hit 50% foreign born in 2011, but its undoubtedly higher now.

How is that reasonable, the Irish state spending huge amounts of tax payer euros to house large numbers of immigrants? And even worse, doing so when there are 15,000 homeless Irish people, including 5000 Irish children?

80% of the Irish population wants a reduction in asylum seekers. And according to the Irish Times poll today its now the #1 issue for Irish voters. For just these reasons. Anyone (and apparently almost everyone) can see we need to reduce numbers admitted dramatically until the housing crisis is resolved.

The 20,000 asylum seekers forecast to arrive in Ireland in 2024 will require almost 8,000 housing units just to house them. And billions of euros. Thats a huge percentange of our housing output, that we could very easily re-allocate elsewhere if we just controlled the border.

Who said anything about holding anyone back?

I've made three points:

• We have tens of thousands of non-Irish nationals arriving illegally every year, large numbers of whom aren't working (ie, costing the state money).
• Those tens of thousands of non-Irish nationals are also occupying thousands of Irish houses every year (projected to be circa 8,000 in 2024 alone), at a time of the worst housing crisis in the history of the state, when we have no houses to spare.
• The Irish state is also granting very large numbers of non-Irish nationals social housing, at a time when thousands of Irish people are homeless.

All at a cost of billions of euros to Irish tax payers, many of whom are suffering from the cost of living crisis.

Why should we continue doing this, when its making the quality of life worse for every Irish person?

Denmark has shown its completely possible to be in the EU, to follow our "legal obligations", and yet reduce the numbers of asylum seekers by 90%. By just actually controlling your borders.

You can say there are 136,000 unemployed Irish people or you could say Ireland has a 4.8% unemployment rate i.e 95.2% of Irish people are working. The other poster is showing nationalities here that have sub 50% employment rates, some even below 40%.

You can try obfuscate all you want but percentages and per capita are important.

Are you saying the CSO is lying that Ireland has an unemployment rate of 4.8%?

It's unfortunate they don't break it down by country. I bet it varies widely country to country. Even just as an average, it would mean Africans as a whole have 3x the unemployment rate of Irish people.

What is no citizenship do you know?

Yes obviously. That's how countries calculate the unemployment rate. They're not going to count children and people with disabilities. Ireland is currently at 4.8%. You've stated no citizenship and Africa are at 3-4 times this (and if they did release it per country there would be ones there that are 6,7,8+ times that amount.

Also, imagine arriving at a country seeking refuge and when they take you in and ask where you are from saying "nowhere".

Fair enough. I didn't feel the need to state they don't count people who can't and don't want to work in the unemployment rate.

I agree that it could be expected some immigrants will find it hard to find work. I also expect the rate of unemployment between different countries to vary drastically. 3-5x the native unemployment rate is alarming going by your figures.

I think your plausible scenario probably happens but I imagine the majority of asylum seekers that we state have no citizenship here have not had their citizenship stripped. I could be wrong. It's part of the problem with how the government release information on these topics. That data could be a lot clearer with better context.

The CSO quite literally breaks specifically unemployment (not "not working") rates down to the level of every country, thats where I pulled my figures directly from.

Including, as I quoted, unemployment rates of 63% for Congolese, 45% for Saudi Arabians, 43% for Nigerians, 34% for Pakistanis etc

Why would you even attempt to spread complete lies like that?