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Acres

  • 28-11-2023 1:17am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23


    When are the acres payments being made



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,685 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    I’d be thinking the beginning of December, the same as glas was.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    Did you ever hear or read such nonsense and downright stupidity. Whitethorn will seed from haws laid on bare ground over the winter. They are one of the easiest plant to propagate from slips. My father would fashion his own fencing stakes from them and they would take root even at that size. What they want is to introduce disease and wipe out our native hedge rows, like they've done with ash and elm.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,459 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Ah but the won't allow farmers to propagate slips cut from their own hedgerows cause nobody is going to make money from that. The farmer would be saving but that's not the way schemes/funding works. Everyone else is in for their slice of the action 🤑



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭n1st


    I also heard that you're absolutley not permitted to add anything to the hedgerow once planted. Imagine is someone added some fruit or nut trees to the Whitethorn hedge, the damage that would do 😵



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,459 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    I used to add 4 or 5 kgs of phacelia seed to the wbc in Glas and there wasn't a issue about it. We didn't choose planting a hedgerow in ACRES but I if we had I would add damson, crab apple and other native trees at my own expense as they are already growing in some sections of our hedgerows here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭ruwithme


    Indeed, expect a knock at the door from the guards for saying such. If some trash can was attempting a break in , one wouldn't see them arrive as quick.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,202 ✭✭✭amacca


    Exactly...and if they do I want compensation for paying for them.

    I'm always amazed at how they dont serm to be able to think about the basic consequences of the rules/their actions


    Maybe I'm wrong but it seems to me it wouldn't have taken much thought/consultation to forsee an issue like this.


    I will also have a shitload of work felling and tidying up dying/rotten Ash due to the powers that be in their infinite wisdom allowing Ash dieback into thr country through their actions....I should be getting compensation for that too. Actually sickens me to see all those trees dying, I made sure a lot of them weren't cut down in my place 30/40 years ago only to see them rot now.


    So many boloxes with clipboards and not an ounce of common sense unless it's about their bottom line.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭dmakc


    Might be a stupid question but I'm going to plant 300m of hedgerows, farm isn't under an Acres scheme but is it possible to avail of these hedgerow payments for just the planted hedgerow, or am I committing to farm-wide implications going forward?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 892 ✭✭✭grange mac


    It's your land outside of acres so no acres payment but will have to maintain that hedge going forward... And if after say 10 years you don't like it... May have some bother removing it... Due to current hedgerow rules....



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭Robwindstorm


    Lads, just baffled by contract renewal with teagasc for my second year in acres. I am in LIG and received a bill which included 200euro for 'General ACRES (LIG) with visit'. I paid 200euro last year and had a visit for scoring. Even though there will be no visit or scoring this year (year 2) until next year, I wad told today by the teagasc advisor ,that anyone in LIG will be paying this 200euro every year. Has anyone else heard this?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,392 ✭✭✭Sami23


    Do not pay them this under any circumstances and ideally tell the to f*#k off.

    Pay them again next year when they visit to do the scoring again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 180 ✭✭massey 265


    The pricing structure for acres seems to be all over the place depending on what planner you have and options taken.A lad near me has paid a private planner 800 for 1st year plan ,700 for year 2 at training course and soil sample fee yet to come .This all before any payment in oct last.He has now got 85% payment of approx 5k.Was told his annual fee will be 700.He has lig and extensive grazing options only.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭ruwithme


    Some change from " aeos & glas" were after the plan was drew up & submitted, accepted & a nmp for glas, you were done with planners for the 5 year's in the main.

    Was told at the training day, by said planners that their member organisation " never had as much involvement in a environmental scheme draw up" as this one.

    Makes sense now, with annual fees & involvement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,459 ✭✭✭✭Base price




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,148 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    Has anyone in Acres CP who applied to undertake NPI’s received any feedback



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭minerleague


    No, meant to ring them as small bit of new hedge to put in. Think we have till end of December to complete actions rather than March



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    A roadside ditch in our parish was cut recently, rather it was flailed to remove several years of growth. Result mangled ditch and debris everywhere. Is this OK practice in terms of Acres scheme.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,965 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    Just wondering where this info on the extension to the hedge planting is coming from. If it's happening it would be important to get it out there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 655 ✭✭✭PoorFarmer


    Cut in the closed period so no issues. Possibly cut back hard to thicken the growth for subsequent years.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,148 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    I don’t think it’s an extension. Anyone in Acres general knows their timings, anyone in Acres CP are in limbo. NPI’s were submitted in Nov with no response as yet and this cutting/planting season soon closing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭minerleague


    Yes this is it , have to get approval for any NPI in Acres co-op before buy or carry out work



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    Could be the broadband crowd, they fairly hacked them around here, left debris dumps along the side of the road, parked up here in a back area for the weekend here without by your leave, gunge and oil spill under the machine. Departed early before anyone heard them and gone from the locality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 655 ✭✭✭PoorFarmer


    A lot of the broadband crews around here have been using a saw and only cutting about 3 feet under where the wires are running.

    I'd give it 3 years max before they'll be grown up around it again



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,459 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Same here and they don't even bother to try and cut whitethorn/blackthorn growing behind the telephone poles. They replaced two poles on a friends laneway. He asked them if he could have the poles to use as strainers but they wanted €50 cash each.

    The ESB replaced two poles on our land last year and they left them for us along with the big white ceramic insulators and the stay wires. One of the lads said that they are great for using on strainers with the electric fence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 655 ✭✭✭PoorFarmer


    All the broadband crews are looking for cash for any of the poles now. I got them dropped in the yard about 5 years ago for €20 a go. Looking for €50 now at least. I did take 25 of them that time so I probably did get a cut. In reality though the communications poles aren't worth a damn for strainers when you compare them to the ESB ones. Would be lucky to get 3 good 8 foot strainers from the used ones



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 180 ✭✭massey 265


    Biggest problem around this area with the broad band crew has been when they attached the fibre wire on top of the existing poles and tensioned them, this caused some poles to move especially on corners and bends.thus causing lots of problems for tractors ,lorries passing underneath with the existing eircom wires now much lower.When this was brought to their attention they said they were only responsible for the fibre wire.This is a highly dangerous practice imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    Acres course tomorrow. Most had it well before Christmas I believe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 202 ✭✭Sparkles2012


    Anyone that is planting a hedge for Acres, does anyone know do you still have to plant 3 different varieties of hedging?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,808 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    Has to be said that the standard of Hedge care and maintenance etc. by most contractors in the business is pretty atrocious:( - needs to be some sort of basic standards brought in for operators in this space cos clearly alot of them are pretty clueless beyond subjecting ditches to clumsy hack jobs...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 155 ✭✭kerrysoul


    Just wondering, did anyone in ACRES general receive a payment in January. To date I haven't received a bean



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,392 ✭✭✭Sami23




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,965 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    Still waiting here and in the general section of the scheme



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭QA1


    In the bank account there now 🤑🤑



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