Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

It won't look like that for long more I assure you...

However, no need to worry, - by the time they're finished with it it'll have paid it's owner enough to knock it to the ground and build an even bigger version to house even more of our uninvited unwanted "guests"

That gravy train jes keeps on a rollin...

Every era ends though, often violently when the paymasters run out of money...

Maybe not number one issue but an issue that most have a strong opinion on. As I said before, peoples opinions on immigration policies cannot have a major impact on support for the various parties, because all the parties are aligned on policy.

Was it not on a par with No2, percentage wise?

Yeah pretty much, its the biggest political discussion across the country in every town and city across the whole country but apparently it's nothing really to really see here .....

This is sinn feins real problem.☝️

When is the last time mary had a good rant at the government over anything.

So quiet due to the government become more socialist than they are except the government went one step further and went worldwide with the idea. Fg being like a Blackadder quote"As cunning as a fox who's just been appointed Professor of Cunning at Oxford University"

Which is utterly useless. Mainly serves to annoy people

And yet no party who has a strong anti-immigration policy has made a dent in the polls. But of course, that's because they are all rigged.

Detective Leo is on the case

Last week if you said someone who was arriving here from a safe country and should be deported within the hour you would be labelled as a far right loon, this week those arriving from a new list of chancerville safe countries that were labelled in social media by 'far right agitators' as safe over 2 years ago will be rejected, I really can't keep up with things 🤔

Speaking of polls..

I guess that shows that polls can show whatever the questioner wants if nothing else - except that this one would seem to be more reflective of all the other articles and opinion columns and protests on the topic anyway.

But maybe you're right... Maybe there's nothing to see here after all and a small country with massive domestic issues in housing, health, costs of living, urban/rural divides, a broken justice system, lack of real border controls, political disconnect from the on-the-ground issues etc etc really CAN take hundreds of thousands of new arrivals (most wholly dependent on the State/taxpayer) without any adverse consequences.

Maybe..... Maybe not though!

I won't quote from the whole article but 81% of the 1000 asked had negative feedback on the Government's immigration policy and 87% had similar thoughts on their housing approach.

It even says that many politicians expect the immigration issues to feature prominently in the upcoming elections (I'm sure FG issuing its candidates a "cheat sheet" on the issue is just a coincidence!), but hey maybe it's all just racism right?

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Again with this argument which is actually non-applicable given Ireland has opt-outs that we're not currently exercising - and it's not what people are asking for anyway!

All people want is an effective border control system where new arrivals are screened, have their application reviewed and decided on quickly, and where those unsucessful are sent back to wherever they arrived from. It's not really too much to ask and it certainly does no damage to EU citizens being able to move, work and live here either.

What we are NOT obligated to do however is to blindly accept anyone who rocks up with a sad story, who arrives under false pretenses (including economic migrants posing as refugees/asylum seekers), or chancers that stow away in the back of a container. We're certainly not responsible for accepting criminals or dangerous individuals who likewise arrive posing as something else.

Although, I will say that our relationship with our EU "friends" could certainly stand some scrutiny and rebalancing. Our current status as "vassal state" or "occasional thorn in their side because of our FDI/Corporation tax stance" isn't exactly the basis of a fair and balanced arrangement between (supposed) partners - something which was very evident during the not-that-long-ago Financial Crisis and the "assistance" we were given/forced into (which we're all still paying for).

The eastern EU countries seem to manage a better balance of national soverignty and EU membership than we do anyway (possibly because they remember what life was like under a massively bloated and broken/corrupt bureaucracy with increasing removal of rights and national identity) and it's something we could certainly learn from if Ireland is to actually be seen as an equal and respected member/partner of the group. Personally I'd be supportive of winding back the EU to its prior EEC incarnation if the changes needed don't happen - but that's another topic!

The poster said they wanted to stop mass migration. That's very clear what they want. No foreigners coming in. Looking at the immigration thread it also seems that's a clear cohort who dont want any Muslim people in Ireland as well.

It is a good thing that their is choice. But it seems veey few people want to vote for some of these choices, like the Farmers Alliance.

don’t worry there is no national front in Treasure Ireland.

We have a bigger concern. The squeezed middle. Moderate people, a little bit left a little bit centre but have a pain in their hoop paying for everything.

As for Gript. I won’t do a pile in on them. Yes they have got some items wrong. badly. and they should get a kicking for that. But they offer a different view point to the mass herd opinion that’s prevalent now in main media outlets and anyone that’s paid to give an opinion on these outlets. Gript are right about some items. But in this country give a dog a bad name…

Front page of the Irish times today that immigration is voters biggest issue now