Gript-A source of misinformation. **Read OP before posting**

Mind giving us an example of their hate and intolerance against LGB ?

Yes they often have articles discussing and lambasting some of the behaviour around the now media, NGO and modern lefts beloved TQ+++ movement.

Thing is is it hatred to question why some people dressed in a sexually provocative way are are giving reading lessons to young kids?

Is it hatred to question why young kids are being sexualised at a younger and younger age by introduction to certain books ?

Is it hatred to question why young kids are being advised and groomed to undergo gender change?

Mind giving us some examples of their hatred and intolerance towards women?

With respect, that's hardly a ringing endorsement of Gript.

That's true, I'm not prompting them in anyway, I'm pointing out there are multiple media outlets with hatefully views. I threw the Irish light in the bin without reading it but it came in the letter box invading our space with the likes of Gript indviduials have to seek it out to engage with it.

I wouldn't engage with it, no one seem to ask the question why would indviduials seek it and seek the kind of views it promotes.

Because they want their own nasty opinions to be validated. That's why they seek out the type of propaganda organ that Gript is. Gript isn't news and it certainly doesn't contribute anything "very important" to "society". It's carefully selected opinion pushing designed to appeal to certain type, who already hold those opinions.

Discussion and debate

Just to be clear, your suggestion is that through debate, voting and legislation, the state should have the right to silence particular people and their views?

Is this an opinion you hold on principle?

You were asked "who decided in a philosophical sence who gets to speak, how does a society decide?"

You responded "Debate, voting and legislation."

If you don't want to take this discussion forward for some inexplicable (lmao) reason, then feel free to say so, but don't pretend you've magically sniffed out deceit.

People can literally read you saying exactly what I just quoted from upthread.

But I've **** to do now, anyway.

Peace.

This is often stated but no evidence is ever presented.

Most immigration into Ireland is not from muslim countries but it's an easy angle for the scaremongers to work with.

Looks like Gript is not as out of touch with public sentiment as some would claim.

Oh it is, and it’s not a shocking poll, and Gript is still getting nowhere fast in attempting to stir up shìt (I never thought they were far right, that would require some sign of intelligent life to be able to hold political principles).

I gather you have some sort of insight into journalism in Ireland so I do wonder why you’d be posting that, or have you actually read the article in the Irish Times which outlined the question that was asked?

The new survey asks more than 1,000 respondents the following question: “What have you come across in what the Government has said or done recently that has made you think the country is going in the right or wrong direction?”

Their responses are then collated and sorted by issue and whether they view the Government in a positive or negative light as a result. A selection of verbatim responses is carried in today’s Irish Times.

The vast majority of immigration comments are negative — 81 per cent of them, with just 17 per cent positive and 2 per cent neutral.

The picture was similar on housing, with 87 per cent of comments negative and just 12 per cent positive.

On social policies and taxes, however, the outlook was much better for the Government. Almost half, 47 per cent, of comments about social policies were positive, and 61 per cent of comments about taxes were positive.

While the prominence of housing is perhaps not a surprise, the rise of immigration in the public’s attention has been rapid since last summer.

Ipsos B&A has been running the survey in the background since last July when immigration was mentioned by just 6 per cent of voters. By October, it was only 7 per cent. However, it rose to 10 per cent in November, 15 per cent in December and now 24 per cent in January.

https://archive.ph/w3OOu

There really isn’t much can be gleaned from that limited information either way, but undoubtedly Gript will manage to make something out of nothing. I’m just surprised that given you were earlier explaining to other posters here that they weren’t particularly savvy about journalism (I’m paraphrasing), that you’d imagine based on the above that Gript aren’t still out of touch with public sentiment.

That’s the very definition of nothing to see here! You took a single piece of information from the whole article and try to present it as though it should be something significant. It isn’t.

Solidarity with our working class comrades ✊

Oh give over playing the victim 🙄

My comment was in response to the point made by jmcc that the poll would certainly be shocking to those who thought Gript was “far right”.

I was specifically referring to Gript, the media outlet, because that’s what this thread is about, and that’s why I said this -

Oh it is, and it’s not a shocking poll, and Gript is still getting nowhere fast in attempting to stir up shìt (I never thought they were far right, that would require some sign of intelligent life to be able to hold political principles).

McGuirk, the editor of Gript, used to claim that Gript was aimed at Conservative Christians, and nowadays he claims that it is news without the liberal spin. There’s no doubt this change in their narrative is because of the artificial intelligence algorithms which they employed in the hope of increasing their audience. Give people the opinions they want to hear, and they’ll want to hear more, it’s a basic principle of propaganda.

Neither the left nor the right has lost its meaning, it’s simply a fact that a few disenchanted liberals are unable to cope with the reality which they created. That doesn’t make them either right wing or conservative, or even libertarian, it just makes them a contrarian, begrudging crank - “the world isn’t what it was when I was growing up, boo hoo!”

That’s where the likes of Gript comes in, to capitalise on that resentment and begrudgery, to offer itself as a salve for the princely sum of €10 per month to tell you that you’re right, and everyone else is wrong.

I’ve never thought for a minute that this site was representative of Irish public opinion, its demographic certainly isn’t getting any younger and it’s always been male dominated, bit like YouTube that way, can’t handle new forms of social media, much prefers the old days when things were just the way they liked it.

The socialists of old btw were no different than modern socialists - they didn’t give a flying fcuk about the working class any more than you do, until it suits your purposes and then you’ll delight in trying to get them all whipped up into a frenzy. That’s what Gript does - McGuirk failed to get elected anywhere, Scallan asks stupid questions and gets his arse handed to him every single time by politicians who are far more experienced and savvy in politics than he will ever be in journalism. It’s why he hasn’t been snapped up by any of the more mainstream media outlets.

They’re the Irish version of GB News is all, and much like GB News - their financial backers have had their fun. Now Gripts greatest problem is how can they sustain themselves, and the answer is to keep giving the small audience of subscribers what they want - validation of their opinions. That doesn’t require any sort of intelligence.