Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

It’s considered a safe country of origin and their applications are treated differently.

“A new accelerated application procedure for those from safe countries of origin was introduced in November 2022. 

Applicants from a designated safe country of origin receive their interview date on the day they apply for international protection reducing their waiting time for an interview to a matter of weeks.”

Apparently, the numbers have halved in the past year. Albanians made up the largest number for a number of years, but they have fallen away to hardly any recently.

So what is the answer then. You have already agreed that people coming with no documents from war torn countries etc should be allowed in, but people with no documents can tell authorities anything just to get in.

So how do you create a system that isn't open to abuses?

Again, feel free to tell us how that would realistically work.

You are correct that those closest to you are more likely to harm you but that's just so obvious to state, and to use it as an excuse to not look at Ireland's handling of immigration and try to change it is repugnant.

"Hey, keep importing materials that might harm the population because we make plenty of things that harm our own." Bad logic.

Ashling Murphy wasn't killed on a jog by her boyfriend. The two gay gentleman killed, one of whom was decapitated, were not murdered by their fathers.

And I'm for immigration but I'm not going to blindly defend something that clearly requires refinement.

I've already said I don't know what the answer is

What, Afghanistan was Buddhist???

That's like saying Ireland was Druidic!

Bring back the Fir Bolg. Decent lads.

And Pakistan was never Hindu, it separated from a predominantly Hindu country.

As for Lebanon, there was a small Christian minority, now it's predominantly Muslim.

To say these were 'host countries which became dominated by Muslim' is plain daft, at the kindest interpretation.

But we are not importing things that will harm us.

We allow people to immigrate here, some people commit crime.

What would you prefer to happen?

They are way over represented in rape cases before our courts,

You have statistics to back this up I assume?

just grow up, read the room, go out with an attractive young girl and see the in your face harassment some of these non national men engage in

Presumably you have seen the harassment that any woman has to put up with from Irish men? Because that's an everyday occurrence for some of us. And even at that, I don't assume all Irish men are like that, most are not. But harassment is daily.

There are people living in direct provision quite close to me, no issues around here.

I'm not sure who you mean by 'they' but according to AGS IP groups are not any more likely to be involved in serious crime.

I can see the legitimate concerns people have around large numbers of young men being dumped in towns with little or no Garda presence.

Unemployed, young men are more likely to commit crime.

Despite what some sections of the media, and elements online, like to portray, culture or nationality isn't a factor in who commits crime.

That is very true and I don't think anyone would deny that groups of men with no outlet and nothing to do all day are likely to commit crime

You changed my words from "might harm" to "will harm". A subtle change but not what I said. Clearly some people have and will be harmed by a continued trajectory of the handling of immigration by the Irish government. I've just given you the three most famous recent victims who were harmed by it, and that's not including people who have been robbed, assaulted, raped etc. I also haven't included all the people who are affected by a dramatic population increase due to immigration who want to buy a house, visit a doctor or want to put their child in a classroom of 30+ kids.

What would I prefer to happen? An immediate halt to all immigration until the thousands of cases of asylum are adjudicated and the people who are determined not to be genuine are deported. Not at the paltry rate the government is currently operating at. It will take literal years just to handle the ones currently in the country, let alone the ones added with each coming year. (However, I imagine an amnesty will be offered to those who have failed or are awaiting a decision instead of doing the hard work.)

Those that arrive at an airport without documentation have their details taken and sent back to the country the plane departed from.

Then I'd like a merit based system of asylum. Ireland needs construction workers, teachers, doctors, nurses, engineers, IT professionals, urban planners, energy scientists etc. Accept those that pass the requirements and are in genuine need of asylum.

All of the above would improve the country for the Irish people as well as the immigrants already here.

An immediate end to all immigration? UK and EU citizens?

As for the merit based asylum system, asylum is not a mechanism to get Labour into a country or for someone that wishes to get a job to get into a country. The reason for claiming asylum is that a person has

' well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion’, and you cannot seek the protection of your country'

That's the entire reason it exists.

perhaps we need to issue more work permits to non EU persons, make it easier for them to come here to a job.

Our legislation allows for asylum seekers to have no documentation. As to how they got on a plane, sure we know some have false documents, some dump them, some give them back to the traffickers. A newspaper report few weeks ago stated that 50% actually get on the plane with no documents. I don't know how.

If the EU could change the GDPR regulations to allow the sharing of information, the airlines could do a lot more.

If course, non documented a at Dublin airport was just over 3600, asylum seekers were over 13,000

But you cannot implement an asylum system based on someone's work skills, because it ignores the very reason they are claiming asylum.

Just open up to more non EU workers.

Also, how will you stop UK and EU citizens?