Donald Trump discussion Thread IX (threadbanned users listed in OP)

I was referring to Trump's comments about individuals (e.g. Hillary Clinton, Megyn Kelly, the late John McCain), not his comments about the political establishment.

Nancy Pelosi's husband was attacked and "came to physical harm". It was an attack on her \ her household because of her status as a Democratic politician. She has been the subject of abuse from Trump. And the nutjob who did it referenced nonsense about Democrat persecution of Trump.

Your comments were not accurate on any level, and served only to obscure the reality of the consequences of the hysteria whipped up by Trump's lies about a stolen election and 'persecution' i.e. holding him to account for his many crimes and offences.

Couldn't agree more it's insane that the only way he could lose support is by acting as a decent human being.

Presumably Trump won't keep his mouth shut and he'll be back in court for further awards against him.

This really is the perfect case to take him down as he will never learn to shut his mouth, especially when its a woman telling him to, and that is what is costing him every time now. On paper e jean could easily be worth a quarter of a million before the end of the year due to his inabilty to shut his mouth and do what hes told. I say on paper because he is going to drag out paying her for as long as possible and thats even if he can manage it as we all know his total and liquid worth is far lower than he likes to claim

There's an entry on a Facebook page which posted that an Illinois judge has ruled that Trump participated in an insurrection and incited the insurrection. According to the entry, the judge supposedly found that Trump is disqualified under section 3 of the 14th amendment. I went looking for confirmation of the 34 minute-old entry and found this on the CNN politics page.

Former President Donald Trump engaged in the January 6, 2021, insurrection at the US Capitol but should stay on the ballot in Illinois, a retired judge told the state election board, which is set to vote Tuesday on his recommendation.

Retired state judge Clark Erickson — a Republican — issued the recommendation after presiding Friday over an evidentiary hearing at which lawyers from both sides clashed over whether Trump is disqualified from holding office under the 14th Amendment’s “insurrectionist ban.”

In his written recommendation to the Illinois State Board of Elections, Erickson concluded that the board doesn’t have the authority to vet candidates based on federal constitutional considerations. Therefore, he recommended that the board dismiss the case against Trump.

However, he also said that if the panel believes it does have the statutory authority to review Trump’s eligibility under the 14th Amendment, then they should remove Trump from the ballot because he “engaged in insurrection” in connection with the January 6 attack.

The Illinois State Board of Elections, which will vote on whether to accept Erickson’s recommendation, is a bipartisan panel with four Democrats and four Republicans. Their decision can be appealed in Illinois state courts — and Erickson concluded that some of these key questions “belong in the courts,” instead of the election board.

Regarding the events of January 6, Erickson concluded that the former president led “an elaborate plan” to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power and later tried to give himself cover by halfheartedly calling for peace.

Other online pages, like Chicago Sun-Times, included most of the judges ruling in their reports on the breaking news. The judge was sitting as an Illinois election board hearings officer when he made the ruling, according to the Chicago Sun-Times report.

As to whether this will have any effect on the GOP is still to be known.

In potentially good news for him, it looks like there may be trouble for Fani Willis in the Georgia case.

Article in the FT so would be pay walled but in essence, it appears she had an undisclosed relationship with an outside DA which they hired to help with the prosecution as there I allegations that some of the money that was being paid to him was being used for holidays and trips with Willis.

It doesn't change the facts or evidence of the case, but it could see her removed, which could see the case thrown out or delayed long enough to play into Trumps hands.

Fani Willis hit back several days ago putting the blame for the allegations on the wife of the other DA, as the couple were in the process of divorce. Claims were made then that Fani Willis and the husband of the other woman had gone on foreign trips at the same time not at his expense.

Georgia GOP are already talking about talking about setting up a special senate committee to look into allegations of misuse of public funds

I'm watching how Trump is trying to use the dispute between Gov Abbott of Texas and the Feds at the border involving the Texas Nat Gd and Federal officers to his advantage. There's a peculiarity about the dispute as the USSC ruled that the Border patrol can take down razor wire erected on Abbott's order. The USSC had vacated a lower court order stopping the Feds from removing the razor wire. It doesn't mean [yet] that Abbott is in defiance of the USSC, just that he arguing against the supremacy of federal law over state law where the wire is involved by impeding the Feds from removing the wire. There have been direct clashes between Texan and Border Patrol officers in respect to immigrants crossing the river border between Mexico and the US. Trump doesn't give a fig for the immigrants and anyone involved down there.

Trump wants to link the row with a difference of opinion between the Senate GOP members over a deal linking funding for the Govt and immigration. Mitch McConnell is pro a deal with the Admin while the GOP hardliners want to block it. Naturally any setback for the Admin will be broadcast by Trump as a sign of Admin weakness and he doesn't like McConnell anyway.

Speaking of that deal, Senator James Lankford [R] Oklahoma has just been on the Beeb news saying the deal is on. Sen Lankford does not seem to like Trump: https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=8e2965bb1f7c642aJmltdHM9MTcwNjQ4NjQwMCZpZ3VpZD0wYjkyYjAwZC1mOGE4LTY4ZDktMzIxOC1hM2I3ZjllNTY5YzMmaW5zaWQ9NTU3MA&ptn=3&ver=2&hsh=3&fclid=0b92b00d-f8a8-68d9-3218-a3b7f9e569c3&psq=Senatro+Lankford&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly9uZXdyZXB1YmxpYy5jb20vYXJ0aWNsZS8xNzg1MzAvZ29wLXNlbmF0b3ItamFtZXMtbGFua2ZvcmQtdHJ1bXAtbWFnYS1ib3JkZXItc2NhbQ&ntb=1