Residential to airbnb

Actually it is. Airbnb hosts can use the dynamic pricing function which alters the price depending on demand and what guests are paying in that area at that time. The price goes up and down, but is a good indicator of what is being paid to hosts.

The op is right not to post the rent he/she is asking for, there will just be a pile on of people saying how greedy he/she is. Given the restrictions associated with RPZ regs and how the op will be locked in at a lower rental rate for future increases, the op is right to either hold on, short let, or sell. This is one of the unintended consequences of RPZ.

OP a friend of mine is using a service now that leases your house off you for the year and then "airbnbs" it themselves and splits the profits with you. It gets around the 14 days rule somehow because they are taking it for 14 days, not the people who stay in it. Im sure its a bit more nuanced than that though. I'll ask for the company name.

I wasnt really paying attention but i think they lease it for a tiny amount for a year. They then advertise it or maybe even put it on airbnb or similar. Then They pay you x amount based on what the guests have paid and they organize the cleaning etc and take a cut and the cleaning fee. He seems happy with it anyway.

Somehow they get around the 14 day rule whether its becaiuse they took it for more than 14 days themsleves or they give it to guests who stay a few days but pay for 14 days. eg if the cost for their 5 night stay was €1000. Then "officially" they pay 1000 for 14 days but only stay 5. I'll find out more.

Or possible, they just made up their "own" version to entice property owners & rely on weak enforcement until they get caught and dissappear😂

My post on Airbnb rents was in reply to this by OP:

"Looking on airbnb now can see 2 beds that can be taken for 6k in July. Anyone doing this ?

It's not possible to know / guarantee €6k can be achieved. If you don't ask for it you won't get it, but the property could end up vacant in July, or rented for considerably less. Airbnb will have its saturation point of supply outstripping demand too.

I understand about posting actual rent which is why I said ball park. OP has not mentioned selling. It is an option I suggested.

If the guest pays for 14 days and the host can’t relet during that 14 day period, whether the guest stays all the nights or just 5 is immaterial, the host is letting to only one guest for 14 days. I’m not sure how that could be considered a work around. If the host shortlets contrary to the regulations, it doesn’t matter how smart your friend thinks they are, the only reason they may still be doing it is because they haven’t been caught.

So what is the actual law on it then?

Its a company that is providing this service as far as i know. Im playing golf with him next month i'll find out more about it.

As above

You'd be doing very well to actually let it for each period for a grand.

The middleman doesn't change anything

I know for a fact a relative of mine is getting €4k for a 3 bed house in Co. Dublin for less than a week in June when they are going on holidays. They asked my mother would she be around to hand over the key and show the guests around the house if needed.

So if a house or apartment was available all year I guess there will be times when they get more and times when they get less or even nothing.

Im sure he has weighed up the pros and cons of renting, selling or airbnbing and this option suited him best. If it were me I would be selling for sure.

Well when I said 14 days, it should actually be more than 15 days and he is hunky dory.

I guess also the fact that im staying in a house myself in the summer from an ad I saw and paying cash to the person when i get there might be a sign that not everything is going to be as traceable as people seems to think anymore. Its can easily go back to how it was just over a decade ago. Owner puts up an ad somewhere (probably not airbnb or booking.com or any of the usuals anymore, given they are being targeted specifically and are a bit too good to themselves with their charges) You look up a property for rent. You phone the owner. And you pay them cash. You might send them a deposit to book the place. Its only less than a decade since everyone always did it this way. Im sure we can learn to do it again. I did it last year and doing it again this year. Its not hard.

i know, but thats an example, you could add a bit in there, and then elsewhere. id be sticking with medium risk at the moment.

i suggested selling , knowing two ppl who had properties ( who didnt gouge rent, then used for older kids for college in Dub ), they jumped ship, sold for a fair price too and left the market, said the hassle was too much. tricky times all round.

Sorry, I thought you said your friends would be compliant and you could pick holes in the legislation. But what you seem to be saying is you are counting on it not being enforced.

The guest is not the one who is not in compliance, how the guest pays for it is irrelevant, it’s whether the host is compliant with the legislation that matters. Accepting cash is not picking a hole in the legislation.

Dublin is a kip.

Q.E.D. 😊

I already explained it to you. I stated one glaring hole in it. Just replying to your link dump. I dont know the ins and outs of how it all works, but im pretty sure at this point that neither do you. Legislation all very wishy washy and has been for many years now, and your link dumps dont chagne the fact that people are and will continue to get around legislation in all sorts of imaginative ways.

Link dump doesn’t have context, I linked the legislation you yourself asked to see.