Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

Don't worry about it just try not to embarrass yourself again.

Do you remember when it was left wing to question establishment and authority figures? Now it's "the establishment are telling the truth and anyone who says they aren't is a conspiracy theorist"

As per title of thread: Immigration to Ireland - ..... challenges ... The list below applies to rural towns and areas traditionally reliant on a domestic and international tourism business.

• taking our young peoples job, a combination of lay offs due to closures and substitution also by dint of paying reduced wages to immigrants and refugees.
• our young people needing to emigrate or move to cities (with impossible rents) or languish on the dole.
• significantly reducing bed capacity thus affecting all related tourism business reliant on this.
• putting pressure on the provision of nursing homes. Our elderly frozen out or forced to go nursing homes at greater distances.
• putting pressure on local educational and health facilities
• damaging traditional Irish culture, closure of trad music sessions due to closure of venues and lack of visitors.

Those in favour of this brave new world, please discuss. Offer us your wisdom and tell us just why we should accept this.

And you live in some very sheltered office, reliant on what you can see out the window and your precious reports. What do you think my list is - it's a fecking report.

It's just a report that you don't want to accept.

Get out on the road and start visiting rural towns and areas where the government has been settling new arrivals. Talk to the people and write your own reports.

You gave a very detailed list and it was waved away with "well that's just your opinion". I don't know why certain people are so hellbent on denying that we have so many problems

Back them up. With facts. Anything else is just opinion.

I can't agree with all of that especially the first 2, most young Irish folks won't work in a lot of the jobs that the immigrants take up like cleaners, waiting staff and other such jobs, especially the jobs are the lower paid end of the spectrum. The second point on the young people emigrating, I don't think that is down to Immigration, the high rents and high cost of living were here well before this immigration problem. The housing problem is as a result of government policy, yes immigration will have an impact but again that is a government decision and is not caused by immigration alone.

Most of the problems we are seeing and that you have listed are all caused lack of foresight and planning from the government and civil servants which I think would still be an issue even if we didn't have the immigration problems lumped on top of it.

Annasopra has been proven to post misinformation about fethard arson in Tipperary. Poster has zero credibility.

Did you miss the part where I said nobody should be housed in working hotels, and I saw a report from traders in Killarney about the fall in tourism there.

Defence of what now?

Have you ever lived in a seasonal tourist town along the west coast?

I can guarantee 100% you haven't.

Tourism related jobs are where most people work. It's where almost every young Irish person works.

The point is that there are already issues and adding to stretched services is going to break them even further. This is basic stuff

Roderic O'Gorman is very well intentioned, I've no doubt about that. But he's typical of too many people on too many issues nowadays, in that when their ideology is shown to be ineffective they won't adapt. They are guided more by ideology than reality.

The Government are trying to educate the masses about immigration, and to be fair I would agree that a lot of people have overly negative views of immigrants. But the other side is that there has been too much immigration in too short a time and services have been overwhelmed.

If the Government acknowledged that fact, said they would try to rectify it, and also went ahead with their campaign they might have more success than they expect. But what they're doing now is likely to be divisive. If the Government doesn't acknowledge real problems around immigration they won't be taken seriously.

I wonder how or why anyone would trust the current crowd in Government to follow through on any of their immigration "reforms". To me it just looks like a knee jerk panicked response to the electorate. Elections are looming, and talk is cheap. I think it is all optics myself.

I do understand that we have certain obligations but we also have optional opt outs too. Was there any mention of that in all their very recent announcements?

Seems to me they are collectively going "Oh sh!t, the natives are in revolt" Do something, anything. Hey RTE tell them this and push it, push it. They'll get the propaganda message eventually.

This stuff about adding to the safe countries list is largely a sticking plaster designed to placate an angry population that won't have a material impact. Especially if we don't include the likes of Nigeria and Morocco. Georgia is on the safe country list and it still has 3,700 people in the system. They will be going nowhere.

The answer to this is to prevent them stepping foot in the country in the first place, and a beefed up Garda enforced mandatory deportation policy.