Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

Are you denying that Hamas raped and sexually assaulted women on October 7th?

The Israelis exaggerated the amount of people killed because they killed many of them themselves. There were not 40 babies beheaded either. What Hamas did was bad enough and a murderous act but Israel put out many lies in order to commit their own crimes against the Palestine people. There are loads of videos, many made by Israelis, calling them out. Their lies are well exposed at this stage. There may very well have been rapes and babies murdered and that's an awful crime and there was no need to exaggerate the numbers except that it was used to murder other babies and women as well as levelling their homes.

This again. They never said 40 babies were beheaded. Go on, you can watch the report again. She said 40 children and babies were killed, some were beheaded. It's a complete straw man that is continually used to claim Israel lied about something they never even said.

Interesting news coming out of the UK. Seems a bit out of step with their to-date blind acceptance of orders from Israel

Towards the end, a guest explains that the Brits are a bit pissed off that the Israeli's bombed a medical facility, injuring 4 British doctors and admitted to deliberately doing so whilst knowing what it was, after previously marking it as a safe location.

It was said on here for sure too.

The UK media has noticeably changed it's reporting on the atrocities

They report on the fact that Israel is now bulldozing Gazan farmland and destroying the little food production capabilities of the strip.............they are even now claiming they are bulldozing the crops because there are tunnels there. Half of the farmland is destroyed according to the report. The zionists are absolutely shameless.

they did say 40 babies were beheaded.

what you stated was then stated by israel after they were exposed on the original claim.

correct, so you should surely condemn the IDF and it's deliberate policy of targeting civilians and mostly only civilians.

Ireland did give condolences to Germany upon Hitler's death.

Ireland also kept the embassy of Nazi-Germany open in Dublin during WW2.

Ireland also harboured known Nazis after the war, such as Otto ( Scarface ) Skorzeny who lived in Kildare for 2 years before moving on to Spain.

There were also two other Nazis Ireland harboured, one from the Brittany region of France, the other from the Balkans.

When the Blitz in London was on, some Irish are recorded of saying that the Germans are doing to the British, as the British have done to us for centuries......

All known from history.

The Republic of Ireland sadly often had a history of supporting "the wrong side".

You're bright!

The comments are there for you to peruse over, just because you cant be bothered going back to find them doesnt mean I should do it for you.

They'd be more prosperous if their entire city and infrastructure hadn't been leveled.

But it's still whatabouttery. The fact is that if anyone claims that israel faces an existential threat, what do the people of gaza face? What do the people of the west bank face? The justifications for Israels tactics/strategy can't be used unless it's also applied to the Palestinians.

Nearly 4 months since Israel commenced its campaign, 132 hostages remain in Gaza. Israel believes 28 of them are dead.

Hostage families have been pleading for Israel since October to follow through on their claimed objective of "releasing all hostages".

Other than those released during the humanitarian pause, Israel has achieved nothing other than IDF killing of three surrendering Israeli hostages.

From Haaretz yesterday:

• Family members of hostages held by Hamas in Gaza harshly criticized the far right conference calling for the re-settlement of Gaza. Gil Dikman, whose cousin Carmel Gat is a hostage, said: "In the morning you throw mud at each other, and in the evening you dance at an event that only harms us. In Gaza, the hostages do not dance."

Hostage families have stormed the Knesset.

The Israeli far right in support of settlers, cares more about their plans for taking over Gaza (genocide) than releasing the hostages.

The IDF is well able to mount a kill squad in a hospital in the West Bank, but have appeared not to attempt to extract hostages.

Israel will be an International genocidal pariah as a result of their war cabinet's actions.