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Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

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    #10982
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 41,065 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121698533#Comment_121698533

    🤣🤣🤣

    Oh look another conspiracy on housing people seeking refuge.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #10983
    Backstreet Moyes
    Registered Users Posts: 8,795 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121698335#Comment_121698335

    I mean this surely can't be true.

    We have people working all their life and means tested to get one, people working and with the cost of living cannot afford to shell out 70 quid, so suffer in silence.

    Then people who arrive here just receive it.

    That is blatant discrimination against irish citizens.

    It should be the first thing said to anyone canvassing looking for a vote.



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    #10984
    malinheader
    Registered Users Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭malinheader


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121698585#Comment_121698585

    Was this stated categorically, or is this what you defined yourself from someone's post.



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    #10985
    RobbieTheRobber
    Registered Users Posts: 6,825 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121698647#Comment_121698647

    I have been told my children are not Irish. Based on their mixed ethnicity.

    The posts have received many thanks. The mods have deleted them.

    Are you really going to suggest there aren't multiple posts on this thread bashing everyone who tries to defend immigrants from racists.

    Are we really going to suggest posters aren't being labelled open border advocates on this thread.

    Is racism wrong?

    Yes in all it's guises and should be called out by everyone when it rears it's head.

    Even more so when that racism comes from people on your supposed side.



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    #10986
    Sunny Disposition
    Registered Users Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    It's unfortunate that immigration has become so divisive, it really is.

    The warnings were there, but a kind of Irish exceptionalism meant they were disregarded. When Brexit happened it should have dawned on our policy makers that people would have a problem with very high levels of immigration, particularly in areas where there is a shortage of accommodation (the whole country at the moment). The Irish self congratulation around immigration was premature and misplaced.


    While the last year or so has been painful one would hope politicians will now pursue more centrist policies on immigration. The last few weeks have seen some moves in this direction.



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    #10987
    thinkabouit
    Registered Users Posts: 1,667 ✭✭✭thinkabouit


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121697732#Comment_121697732

    Let there be no doubt, they & their bosses want nothing To do with a backward thinking notion of sovereignty.

    Our previous Taoiseach said that.



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    #10988
    DoyDK
    Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭DoyDK


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121698521#Comment_121698521

    Water charge protest = racist.

    Lol, you probably just wrote all that in a flurry, but thanks for the laugh 😄

    That's up there with any conspiracy theory rant I've ever seen.



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    #10989
    animalinside
    Registered Users Posts: 388 ✭✭animalinside


    I keep locals on interviews saying they're not hateful, they're not racist, and so on, they are just at full capacity.

    My question is - why aren't there people like get them the hell out of the country and give them a kick on the way out? That they don't belong here at all? I'm not saying that's the correct way to be, I am saying where are those people?

    If we have terrible and crazy people on the left, why don't we see some on the right also?

    I've never seen so many passive-aggressive locals in my life. I feel like we've lost something if people that are proud of their nation and their country just aren't too bothered anymore, until they were without a place to live and then some of them took notice.



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    #10990
    RobbieTheRobber
    Registered Users Posts: 6,825 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121698750#Comment_121698750

    I didn't say that though did I.

    Water charge protestor >>anti mask>>COVID is a hoax>> nwo>> anti immigrant.

    That is the path for many of the "true believers" in Ireland.

    Of course not everyone got on at the first stop and some were racists even before the water charges protest.



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    #10991
    bloopy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,278 ✭✭✭bloopy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121698750#Comment_121698750

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    #10992
    DoyDK
    Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭DoyDK


    Deleted.

    Post edited by DoyDK on


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    #10993
    maisie45
    Registered Users Posts: 188 ✭✭maisie45


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121690747#Comment_121690747

    Day after day courts are dealing with non nationals who have committed serious offences, their victims are usually women.



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    #10994
    tabby aspreme
    Registered Users Posts: 3,960 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    According to RTE this morning, planes being chartered for deportations, 5000 to be deported and the Gardai will be knocking on doors, the elections are looming



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    #10995
    maisie45
    Registered Users Posts: 188 ✭✭maisie45


    They are making absolute fools of us and using the media to make themselves look effective.

    Media should be holding those in power to account, abysmal state of affairs.

    Doubt if they will deport anyone, the NGOs making a living from this carry on will block all moves.



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    #10996
    animalinside
    Registered Users Posts: 388 ✭✭animalinside


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121698856#Comment_121698856
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74BzSTQCl_c

    They had a look at the opinion polls and are in full-on panic mode. A bit late at this point.



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    #10997
    Gussoe
    Registered Users Posts: 558 ✭✭✭Gussoe


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121698470#Comment_121698470

    "The refrain 'they're needed to do the jobs the Irish won't do' is the same one Neo-Conservative Republicans used 20 years ago when the Democrats in the U.S were bitching about uncontrolled immigration.

    It us a right wing policy, dressed up as left wing compassion."

    YES, this is the crux of it. These people have been gaslit. Their liberal bleeding-heart compassion has been cleverly used to hoodwink them into supporting policies that run contrary to their own interests and the interests of their community.



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    #10998
    enricoh
    Registered Users Posts: 4,910 ✭✭✭enricoh


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121698856#Comment_121698856

    They are crapping themselves with elections a year away at most. If the corporation tax dries up beforehand they might just give sinn Fein the poisoned chalice!



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    #10999
    DoyDK
    Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭DoyDK


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121698585#Comment_121698585

    Racism obviously exists, and it's a problem across the world, to some degree or another. However, I've noticed some people seem obsessed with it, particularly in the West. It's almost like they look under their bed for "racists" at night. I hear some people mention it so often, I ponder if it's actually a projection of their own closeted racism. Either that, or they've been propagandised so strongly that they've taken the script and repeat it ad nauseam.

    As you know, if one constantly attributes everything to "racism", then that word begins to lose meaning. That's a problem in and of itself.

    Race is the ultimate tool for division. Division is beneficial to certain cohorts. Be careful you're not being manipulated.



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    #11000
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 41,065 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121698775#Comment_121698775

    Are you honestly claiming there's no crazy aggressive people on the right?

    20 buildings haven't been burned down

    Tents were not burned out in Sandwith street/People were not assaulted in Ashtown

    Libraries haven't been closed down because of harassment of staff on a regular basis

    Numerous death threats against politicians and refugees and lgbtq+ hasn't happened

    Fireworks were not thrown at gardai in the midst of covid protests.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #11001
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 41,065 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121698841#Comment_121698841

    Vast vast majority of such violence is by white Irish people

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #11002
    gw80
    Registered Users Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭gw80


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121698986#Comment_121698986

    It was "white irish people" who voted for same sex marriage.

    It was "white irish people" who decriminalised being homosexual.

    It was "white irish people who developed a society that the Lgbt community could live in relative safety and peace,

    Go do a survey of some of the cultures of a lot of these people, and ask them their thoughts on LGBQ people and come back to us.



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    #11003
    waterwelly
    Registered Users Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭waterwelly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121698786#Comment_121698786

    You seem to be getting over emotional. Maybe it's time for you to step back from the thread.

    It appears that because of your kids ethnicity you are gone into full defensive mode.



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    #11004
    malinheader
    Registered Users Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭malinheader


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121698688#Comment_121698688

    Are you sure about this Robbie.

    I was one poster who you accused of saying this about your children from one of my posts, but I definitely never claimed your children weren't Irish.

    How could someone unless you gave out personal details about your family.

    Are you sure about what you're stating.



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    #11005
    mauries wigs
    Registered Users Posts: 98 ✭✭mauries wigs


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121698856#Comment_121698856

    I’ll get the champagne on ice



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    #11006
    malinheader
    Registered Users Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭malinheader


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121698981#Comment_121698981

    Why are you mentioning the 20 buildings being burnt down again when no answers to what happened here has been given. Do you know what happened.



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    #11007
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users Posts: 7,391 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121698856#Comment_121698856

    They are the far right!!!!!’



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    #11008
    Cordell
    Registered Users Posts: 5,964 ✭✭✭Cordell


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121699047#Comment_121699047

    And it was the white Irish who built this desirable country that attracts so many non white and/or non Irish.



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    #11009
    Lotus Flower
    Registered Users Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭Lotus Flower


    It's funny to see water charge protestors being deemed conspiracy theorists and racists, the most prominent of water charge protestors, the ones who trapped the Tanaiste in her car, are hard left and pro open borders



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    #11010
    Lotus Flower
    Registered Users Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭Lotus Flower


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121699107#Comment_121699107

    Yes I was also involved in this discussion and it was about second generation immigrants who are born here and legally Irish and ethnically Irish. It was claimed that people don't see people of a certain skin colour Irish even if they have an Irish parent and examples were given of how that is not true such as Baz Ashwarmy, Paul McGrath, Phil Lynott. No one actually said "Robbie your children are not Irish"



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    #11011
    malinheader
    Registered Users Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭malinheader


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121698986#Comment_121698986

    How does this fair statistically. You do know the country is mainly white Irish. Have you the statistics for your claim or yet again is it just another anti Irish statement.



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