Ian Bailey RIP - threadbans in OP

Be suspicious all you want, but it puts to bed your theory that he came up with this story to get himself a lighter sentence in 2010 and that it was part of a wider Garda led conspiracy to get Bailey. Boys being boys, testosterone and all that, it is something that you would remember. It would particularly have been ingrained in your memory when the lady was murdered and would have stayed there afterwards.

Bolger was never asked about Bailey after the murder and didn`t think he had anything important to disclose.

The whole argument about the frailty of "recovered" memories of witnesses, (something which the DPP relied on) is a nonsense. The murder was a momentous event locally and local residents recall would have been crystalized by it so that even if they were asked by Gardaí months later they were likely to remember the detail with reasonable accuracy.

Caroline Leftwick for example. The call she got from Bailey the morning after the murder. She was`t recalling that several months later. That phonecall and it`s timing would have been to the forefront of her thoughts only days after the murder when it was becoming apparent that Bailey was a suspect.

So he had a blackout decided to a take bath, steal a bottle a wine, stash it, but then he forget where he stashed it and couldn't remember why he was clean presumably?

That sounds like complete fúcking nonsense, doesn't it?

Be honest.

Bailey fell on hard times around the time of the break in

Around the time or at the time? The Housekeeper narrowed one incident down to a very specific Thursday, was Bailey in need of a wash that Thursday?

Once the locks were changed, there was no more mysterious grooming, which would indicate someone had a key.

Did Bailey have a key?

Did the handy men who maintained the property have a key?

Did the 2 neighbours have a key?

The lady who tided up certainly had.

Was there a key under a flower pot outside?

There is a whole heap of questions that need answering before you tear both hamstrings with the stretch that Bailey was indulging in blacked out washing and thieving.

he had nothing important to disclose ???? he said he seen bailey meet Sophie at Alfies - i would of thought that was kind of essential to the initial investigation ?

Depends how dirty the bath was... suggests it was more than just a ring of grime but hadn't been rinsed out at all and was obviously dirty.

How dirty can a bath be after being used once?

I`ve listened to him being interviewed on WCP and find him truthful. Bailey was a proven liar.

You don't stash a bottle of wine that needs a corkscrew. Stashing a bottle of wine would not be the done thing, as it needs to be drunk pretty quickly once opened.

Alcoholics sometimes stash a bottle of spirits that they take a nip from, somewhere they can pop to, like a shed or somesuch. They don't stash it kms away.

It makes no sense on any level as a claim.

Ok....refute the points

"Never asked? Come off it"

They didn`t ask him about Bailey. He said this to WCP so I presume if we ever get to see his statement it will confirm that.

"You can`t even say when this incident happened."

Sometime between `93 and `96 and in terms of probability most likely `93. I might have a listen back to the podcast later to see if they mention a specific date. Bolger was repairing Sophie`s roof at the time and Bailey was working on Alfie`s garden. Bolger was skiving off with the two boys and Sophie came looking for him. He remembered quite a few specifics. Bailey had his poetry in a leather satchel and wanted to show it to Sophie.

"Why would it stay ingrained in your memory."

One party is believed to have murdered the other so it`s one of those introductions that stays in the memory forever.

"He didn`t think it important to disclose."

Why would he if, for example, he thought Alfie had already told investigators about it?

Somewhere between 1993 and 1996. So that's very specific information then?

How would it stay in the memory for a long period after the trivial social interaction? Unless you knew the person was going to be murdered?

And how could you know that in 1993, 1994, 1995... and there's no indication the alleged incident happened in any way recent to the murder or even in 1996.

The source for this garbage is known trustworthy local Leo Bolger. The one running that sophisticated drug operation for years. A very credible witness I'm sure you'll agree.

Ah it's just gas the way some people come onto this discussion with threadbare knowledge about the case. Do you seriously think WCP is about the horse or are you just having a laugh?