The new recycling system

I think people search for crap when there's none to be there and then make up some ridiculous rubbish to have faux anger about.

If it has a return logo the deposit will be charged, if it doesn't it won't.

So YES you could pay €1.65 for a can of cocacola and also pay €1.50 for the same can in the same shop if they are at the end of the non return stocks.

Buy it and sue them then.

EDIT: or report them to the CPPC. The SEL did not indicate that a deposit was being paid.

Maybe you should.

You just spent the morning telling everyone one here that it couldn't happen.

😂

If people think its illegal what lidl are doing, then return clearly knows about it since it's their branded machine that is enabling the returns. if anything they'll just dissmiss it saying something like "we made an acception", or "there was'nt enough time to put logo's on all cans" despite having over a year or 2, there will always be some excuse, and government will support them because the DRS scheme is rolled out on their behalf to reach their goal anyway.

The only way i can see anything illegal in my eyes from this, is if LIDL or any other store, add a deposit charge, and refuse to give you the deposit back.

Apologies if this has been answered already but didn't find definitive info on this.

Today bought a bottle in Tesco and now noticed that was charged the 15c deposit. However, the bottle doesn't have a return logo and only standard barcode. I was under the impression that only bottles with the logo should be charged deposit as those without it won't be returnable.

On another note, as far as I could see the store I bought from didn't have a facility to return the bottle which is annoying.

I think charging the deposit and not displaying it on the SEL is illegal. If it happens to me, I'll report it to the CPPC and see what they say.

Lidl will give you the deposit back. Any RVM will in this scenario.

The example you gave was a bit different. You were saying a store would have one set of prices of the non-ReTurn logo stuff and another set of prices for the ReTurn logo stuff and display them at the same time. I said that was impractical and pretty much isn't going to happen but not illegal.

but it did happen, i went back to the store yesterday and they still have all the non-return logo bottles of drink at €2.25 instead of the previous €2. a few days ago when talking here i even gave the convo i had with the guy that works there, word-for-word and he was told to shut up mid sentence by another member of staff.

i checked cppc website, and aslong as the store isnt admitting its a deposit, theres nothing that can be done.

"In general, there are no price controls in Ireland. This means that, in most cases, there is no minimum or maximum price for goods or services. This is to allow for competition among businesses.

A shop is not breaking the law by charging more than their competitors. If you feel that you are not getting good value, then you should shop around for a better price."

https://www.ccpc.ie/consumers/shopping/pricing/

What did you buy? i.e. whats the barcode number?

If they're pocketing 25c, where is the deposit being charged? They're just upping the price of the product. Nothing illegal about that.

The cans will be accepted at an RVM (in the Lidl case). They have an international barcode. Containers with an international barcode will be accepted at RVMs with or without the logo. The RVMs do not have the ability to read the ReTurn logo. Theres a full list of barcodes available. I linked you it above. Any of these barcodes will be accepted at RVMs with or without the logo.

exactly my point (on the latter half of what you said) so they was bluffing all along with the logo requirement. i knew something was fishy with how it was worded. i mentioned numerous times in the thread about the barcode mattering and quetioning the whole logo reader thing in the machine which is now magically non-existant. They are telling people even on the machine "this machine is for cans and bottles containing the re-turn logo only, do not insert anything other than this" or something. BIG BLUFF

aslong as the barcode is international and on the list/link you sent. im good to go as far as to be concerned. yes?.

as for the first part its unthical and misleading to have them side by side, or in the same area as the deposit can's/bottles. its trickery. a person just needs a good eye for details not to fall for the scam

Even more bizarre considering the transition period has now been disregarded without any notice.

It's basically going to be a lotto to determine which cans and bottles qualify for the scheme.

Fun times and long queues ahead.

A 330ml Innocent fruit juice, barcode: 5 038862 434355

NI market cans of soft drinks etc won't be on the international list. They get their coke and pepsi from the same bottlers we do (and not the same as coke GB) and they have split market packaging

You'd spend more money on sorting and transport than you'd get back

Containers are marked. I do know, that other country's use deposit systems and thought about stuff like this years ago?

So there's now 3 states of item on sale from today according to Liveline...

• Items that don't have the Re-turn label which can be sold up until 1st June with no charge taken or given when returned*
• Items with the Re-turn label which the retailer has been charged the fee on and will pass it on to the consumer who can then get the fee back when they return it to the RVM.
• *A list of 800 items that don't have the Re-turn label on them but because they are international products the fee will be charged on them despite the fact the retailer wasn't charged the fee pre February 1st. So if someone has stockpiled these items you are in the money 😁