The Traitors

We didn’t know anything about Evie because it’s a TV show and the producers decided to tell us nothing about her.

Yes, the stronger faithfuls get voted off. I don’t understand how anyone doesn’t pause when Evie is voted off and wonder why Harry only told a select number of people and that the whole theory flips at that point.

Harry definitely deserved to win. Andrew and Jaz were the only ones who could have stopped him, and they both waited until it was too late. Jaz would have needed Andrew and Evie's votes to take down Harry, but he didn't push Harry hard enough at the first roundtable. And Andrew should have planted seeds about Harry a day or two earlier.

But it's been Harry's to lose since he got rid of Paul, and even when Jaz did question him a bit last night he batted it away easily enough. Mollie nearly flipped on him but Jaz hadn't done enough to convince her.

Do feel bad for Mollie, as it all rested on her at the end and it's easy to see why she made the choice she did. Harry never gave her any reason to suspect he might be a traitor.

Great series though. I said it before but it's a show that's at its best when it's real, genuine people, rather than quasi-celebs or wannabe-celebs or "personalities".

You couldn't argue Jaz was robbed by the stupidity of Mollie.

Jaz played a very good game but underestimated Mollie and Harrys relationship. He needed to convince Mollie earlier or tried to go for Harry earlier.

Harry kept Mollie with him because of her loyalty.

Didn't Harry even say to Andrew something like he could tell Mollie what to do or vote etc.,

Mollie put no thought into why Jaz if a traitor wanted to keep playing for another banishment, he put his own head on the block but she was so enamoured

In fairness to Mollie, Jaz choosing to vote again could have been explained away in two ways; he wouldn't have known what Harry and Mollie were going to choose so even if he was a traitor he could have been hedging his bets in case one or both of the others were going to vote to banish again, thereby trying to make himself look like a faithful by also choosing to banish again. Another reason might be to just try get more of the prize money by splitting it between two of them instead of three. Greed does do stupid things to people and she may have thought Jaz was trying to get Harry voted out so they'd both get 46k instead of 31k or whatever.

The big issue is she never had a reason to doubt Harry, and she really wanted to trust Harry. Whereas she was never that close to Jaz, had some suspicions about him earlier in the game at least, and Jaz hadn't done enough to properly give her a reason to turn on Harry.

Ultimately her heart overruled her head.

Mollie's reaction at the end was so visceral. The final showdown was fantastic television.

I think it's a testament to the great group of contestants that were on this show.

I thought Claudia looked like she wanted to laugh when Harry revealed being a traitor "from day 1" and Mollie walking off angry

Were Ross and Andrew not allowed say they were only recruited traitors since when?

I think Miles, Jaz, Diane and Mollie will be meme gifs for a long time especially Mollie 😁

So basically every prediction was completely wrong - don't think you can really make any prediction on the first episode except maybe for the traitors survival time

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the final "Traitors: Uncloaked" is worth a watch if you haven't seen it, it has all the finalists onstage and all the other contestants in the audience. Mollie seemed to have recovered from her humiliation but you could sense there was still a bit of tension when Harry appeared. The other contestants were full of praise for how Harry played them all, though they admitted they should have spotted that the shield thing was a double-bluff.

Genuinely.

Ah now, Miriam isn’t a charisma vacuum. They have more personality then her.

They are complete dopes but very entertaining! How the clinical psychologist got her qualifications feck knows. And as for Australia's most decorated undercover cop...

I don't think Harry tried intentionally to copy what Sam did, as it's a game that you really just have to take opportunities as they present themselves rather than try to force things through or plan too far in advance, but even then I think Harry did it far better. Sam only got away with everything he did because all the Faithfuls were absolute morons. Like I said in a previous post, most of the faithfuls would just vote out the last name they heard, even if they all went into the roundtable focused on voting out Sam or Blake.

Harry played a much more subtle game to the point where no-one suspected him. He won the game by acting far better like a Faithful most of the time, whereas Sam may as well have worn his Traitor mask and cloak around all day and the other dumb sh*ts would still vote for themselves if their own name was the last one mentioned. At so many points they all agreed to vote for Sam/Blake, and as soon as either of them said "Well what about X, no one has really looked at them yet", that's who ended up being voted out.

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If a celeb version, then please a proper celeb version no reality stars

I have watched the UK, US, and Aussie ones now. The UK one is bar far the best, the US one is 'celebrities' and its such a cultural difference. Everything in the US is about themselves, even if what is said is nothing to do with them. The Aussie one must just select fools for ratings.

Love how Catherine Tate is playing both Evie and Charlie

Claudia reckons there shouldn't be a third series.

BBC bosses have other ideas though.