General Star Trek thread

Orville went over the deep edge with the 3rd series. Running time was all over the place meaning it was impossible to sell to international networks who had a 60 minute slot to fill with 45 minutes of programme and 15 minutes of ads. Plots got very heavy on the politics, and I consider myself quite centrist in that regard. I was trying to take a break from the doom and gloom on the news about the overturn of Roe V Wade and the very next episode had a system where aborted kids were mocked up to ask why they died.

There was very little heart left in the series, when you compare it to Lower Decks and to a lesser extent Strange New Worlds. It got too cold.

Ah....a TV Movie afterall.

But despite this announcment from the official Trek account, I still won't believe it until I see it. The fact that it was reduced to a TV-movie almost speaks volumes to the amount of faith (or resources) they likely had left for the project. This was supposed to be a series I am remembering right and now I guess we're down to what was likely 2-parter that's been retooled into a "Movie Event"...which just smacks "TV Movie" to my 90's perspective.

In fairness, "TV Movie" does not mean bad and it is not impossible for this to be half decent. Alas, I have practically no faith in their abilities to create good television, especially with a concept so very tied in with Discovery.

Oh God. SO much leather. SO much backstabbing. SO much moustache twirling...

(A parody but is anyone expecting more?)

I had hoped that the excellent Yeoh would have been able to get out of this now that she FINALLY received the acclaim she has deserved for so long. I HATE the Mirror Universe. I thought Section 31 was interesting idea but prone to camp (Even in DS9. Nevermind its extensive use in season whatever - don't care - of Discovery). As I mentioned before, this has the potential to be campier than Graham Norton presenting a Eurovision Sing-Along in a campsite at Glastonbury.

"Made-for-streaming". 202X version of "Movie of the week" or "Straight to video". ie. Not expecting much

I liked the mirror universe in DS9, generally provided some campy fun nonsense against the usual heavier material of the other episodes.

The only thing I would find jarring(and this generally happens across all of Star Trek) is how commonplace a profound discovery like jumping into an alternate dimension became! At the end of these episodes it was always okay so I’m off back to my own dimension/time, take it easy

You know the worst thing about this ongoing S31 nonsense.

It reminds me of the first episodes of Discovery and how much I would have liked a show around Captain Georgiou

"a concept so very tied in with Discovery" except it isn't. The Mirror Universe has been around since TOS, Section 31 since DS9. The only Disco connection is Giorgiou/Michelle Yeoh.

I absolutely get that people don't like Disco - I've been unable to watch since it turned out starships are giant hollow spaces with videogame-like platforms whizzing all over the place - but I don't get why people are **** over a show/TV movie that hasn't come out yet and all we know about is it's got a star of Yeoh's calibre, and uses Section 31 as its background.

Sure, it might be a turd. But - it might not be?

The DS9 mirror universe was way too campy and never should have been explored to the level it was. Disco took the camp and turned it up to Ru Paul writing a BDSM themed panto level. S31 also should not have been explored too much. They have badges to point out their secretness FFS. They dress in black leather with black badges and black ships "hmmm I wonder if they might be eeevvvvvillllll"

I 100% guarantee that like the Borg the more we learn about S31 the shtter it will become.

If you want the show to be dark don't give your "do what it takes" captain a silly reason to be evil and actually have him as a Starfleet captain who crosses the line.

It's like DS9 failing at being progressive by only having Dax be bi for "Trill reasons". At least they did have Treks first DDLG relationship with Garek and Ziyal 🙄

yeah but you can't hold that against her because... it was a sanctioned cull and they were damn tasty.

Michael Sarek's mommy issues > galaxy wide genocidal sadistic torturer.

Let history never forget that Space Hitler and Lorca went to war over which one got to be with the child they groomed.

Oh, we have your guarantees? You should have said! I won't bother watching it now, so! 🙄

It's a Discovery spin-off story about a Discovery character, written by Discovery writers, and directed by a Discovery director. I'm not sure how it could be any more tied in with Discovery. It does have Sam Richardson in it at least though, so that's something.

You said it’s not “so very tied in” with Discovery - my post was showing that it clearly is.

On Strange New Worlds, there’s some crossover but thankfully also a lot of new blood including a new show-runner (the most important creative position) who had nothing to do with Discovery, and a whole bunch of new writers who had nothing to do with Discovery.

They wanted SNW to be something different so staffed accordingly - so the fact everyone involved in S31 is from Discovery tells you something about the intended tone and feel. I’ve no idea if it’ll be good or not, but - especially just as a one-off rather than its own series - it’s likely to be built upon the tone already established for the character.

No mention of the other actor from Discovery?