Ian Bailey RIP - threadbans in OP

There was unmatchable DNA found on Sophie’s boot. It did not match Bailey. Afaik that’s the only untraceable DNA that was found at the scene.

How often had he travelled the route?

I’m not arguing either way but no dna off anyone except some on her boot, surely isn’t an indicator of either innocence or guilt? Especially as the body was left out for 36hrs or so?

• "So to answer your question, we can't rule him out. Nor can we rule out loads of people that we know of in the area. Nor can we rule out people that we don't know of yet. But given the facts, AGS appear to have ruled everyone out except Bailey to the point that they even altered evidence to make him look guilty (and we know this has happened a number of times in the past with high-profile cases)."

And above we have the explaination why these threads about this murder are so self sustaining.His detractors can't see anyone in the frame other than Bailey.His supporters suggest he is only as viable a suspect as every other resident/tourist in the county that day.

So I know y’all LOVE The Daily Mail😀

Anyway, I won’t post the link to yesterdays story but just to say, there was a terrible murder in the UK a while ago by a “rogue builder” who killed a pensioner with a hammer in her home (May she rest in peace) - she had similar “sounding” injuries to Sophie.

They showed CCTV stills pictures of the killer right after the killing leaving her home- he had very obvious blood staining on his clothing and work trousers (beige colour I think)

Maybe you can see why I didn’t post the article now- I just feel it’s not necessary -

but my main point is, whoever killed Sophie, would have had a considerable amount of VISUAL “evidence” on them - something a stream washing certainly wouldn’t have done away with - a shower would have taken time to remove evidence- but for clothing something a like bleach bath wouldn’t have done away with.

To appear at 9am the following day, functioning, appearing normal, and with any evidence of bloodied clothing done away with - its a tough one to believe .

I have read most of the comments on here some saying IBdid it more saying he didn’t and with two dpp s not prosecuting it hard to know what to believe. Sophie coming to west cork obviously proved fatal in the end but with her previous trips I am wondering did she have callers who called and helped her drink the vino etc. As the murder was so vicious I find it hard to believe that any fellow that got rejected would go as far as to what happened. To me that leaves another scenario did some woman who suspected her husband was thieving find a key in his pocket and decided to call around and sort this out, as the saying goes a woman scorned etc etc, husband would probably have kept a closed trap afterwards

Would love to know what the neighbours brought to the dump the next morning.

I read something to that effect. The dropping of the cavity block could have caused multiple injuries. It was 50 injuries not 50 blows.

Anyways back to the other suspects.

Oddessy said earlier the hitman's gun jammed, and he was forced to improvise using what was around him. Not exactly sure what the initial weapon was, unlikely to have been the rock. Anyone want to speculate?

I'd say not much more than a doz direct blows. How I remember it from reading various reports, so obviously only surmising. First blows were with a lighter object, a lump of wood perhaps. Then about five or six blows with the rock, probably as she was on the ground or in the briars. Then the block was used. Some wounds were made without any weapon; stamping on the chest and neck area for instance. I don't think there were any strangulation marks, though her eyes did show signs of choking. Wounds to the hands and arms mostly defensive trying to protect her head.

His reasons were based on a previous assault by Mr Bailey on his partner, Jules Thomas

Baileys assault conviction was 2001, 5 years after the murder.

Now of course that lad can state anything he likes, Jesus told him it was Bailey, Skippy bounced up and told him or Lassie directed him towards Baileys house.

The reasoning outlining why Jules and Bailey were suspects and to be arrested were torn from the evidence books.

I think it is probably more plausible that written in the book was "Ah we have fúcked this, sure lets pin it on those British Bastards"! Instead of "I knew it was Bailey because he wasn't wearing wellies"

Ludicrous.