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Heavyweight Boxing

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    #13322
    eagle eye
    Registered Users Posts: 38,376 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Just seen that ridiculous promo. Way over the top. Started out like two gunslingers and I thought to myself this is good but then went mental turning them into gladiators, pirates, cartoon monsters and other stuff. Totally stupid.



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    #13323
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121706943#Comment_121706943

    Chocolate tastes like **** doesn’t it



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    #13324
    normanoffside
    Registered Users Posts: 9,987 ✭✭✭normanoffside


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121699035#Comment_121699035

    TNT, Skysports and DAZN are all showing this.



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    #13325
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,633 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121707220#Comment_121707220

    Lovely. I assume price same across all three..



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    #13326
    OmegaGene
    Registered Users Posts: 9,331 ✭✭✭OmegaGene


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121707220#Comment_121707220

    i must have missed that, how did sky sports get involved ?

    just heard an interview with Eddie and he said his excellency wants the fight on all networks to get the most exposure which makes sense

    Post edited by OmegaGene on

    The internet isn’t for everyone



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    #13327
    reclose
    Registered Users Posts: 410 ✭✭reclose


    Froch had exactly the attitude you want all boxers to have. Willing to fight the best repeatedly.

    I can’t think of any name left off his resume or any fighter you could say he waited until they were past their best.

    He came up short once or twice but that’s what happens when you face the best.



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    #13328
    reclose
    Registered Users Posts: 410 ✭✭reclose


    I do wonder about Fury’s legs. Has he shown the same level of footwork since Wilder 1 or 2?

    Even without that option he can still win by mauling Usyk and using his weight and size.



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    #13329
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,633 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Froch sticking it to John on Instagram.carlcobrafroch



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    #13330
    Cyrus
    Registered Users Posts: 20,055 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121708577#Comment_121708577

    its weak enough sauce Walshy, just looked even fury’s aul lad has multiples of followers not to take about fury, froch is doing his usual, running his mouth to try and stay relevant.



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    #13331
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121708577#Comment_121708577

    “A never-been” haha that’s an excellent retort. Froch made a bollocks of himself with all the 80,000 at Wembley but he was a serious fighter and he took on all comers. Look at the pile of world champions he fought and beat. Joe Calz may have been a fancier boxer but he never gave him the shot running after easy names for his record



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    #13332
    Cyrus
    Registered Users Posts: 20,055 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121708732#Comment_121708732

    Calzaghe ducked froch, cmon now , don’t frank warren say froch didnt want any of it, nor should he have , at that stage . Joe took a proper mega fight with b hop instead of a domestic fight with someone who’s biggest win was robin reid can’t say I blame him.



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    #13333
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121708765#Comment_121708765

    I certainly wouldn’t go as far as saying he ducked him of course he didn’t. Hopkins was 43 at the time and that was an easier assignment with much less risk, as great as he was.



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    #13334
    OmegaGene
    Registered Users Posts: 9,331 ✭✭✭OmegaGene


    Froch is doing well out of his spat with John fury, he had 120k views on his podcast in 12 hours, he does it with his wife and it’s dull as dish water normally, I’m guessing it’s good for John too now he’s the face of a better company too

    probably all preplanned nonsense for clickbait titles

    The internet isn’t for everyone



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    #13335
    eagle eye
    Registered Users Posts: 38,376 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121708765#Comment_121708765

    You have to take the money fight especially when you are nearing the end of your career. I think you should always take the money fight but a small few don't.

    Calzaghe was on a different level to Froch too.



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    #13336
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,633 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Prime v prime I’d have Joe favorite against Carl, but could be a very competitive fight. Joe’s feet and work-rate likely winning out. But Froch could punch, and Joe could be hurt/dropped. The Froch right uppercut could be very dangerous for Joe

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    #13337
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users Posts: 20,755 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Usyk is fantastic no question < he is giving a lot of credit for his elusive style but if you dive into his wins you see people are landing on him,

    He lost 4 or 5 rounds against Del boy & Bellow & went to a split decision with AJ, Even in AJ 1 he lost 4 or 5 rounds, So he is getting hit a lot more than people like to think or say,

    Makes you think Fury can land often if he is on it & he could have a stoppage in him if he isn't afraid to empty the tank ,

    Just you have that last outing form Fury that is putting doubt into everyones mind ,



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    #13338
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,633 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121710486#Comment_121710486

    It could be a stinker of a fight where it is very difficult to score. Just because Usyk lost rds to others doesn’t mean Fury gets to just beat him. Usyk still won the fights. Hard hard man to beat.

    I picked Usyk well before Ngannou fight.



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    #13339
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users Posts: 20,755 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121710543#Comment_121710543

    Yes that is true but if guys like Chisora & Bellew & AJ are wining 4/5 rounds without ever hurthing him, you'd imagine Fury can do similar but with more power behind shots,

    Of course you did you hate Fury so any close fight you go the opposite,

    i just hope its a good fight & the winner deserves it,



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    #13340
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,633 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121710619#Comment_121710619

    Hate him? Steady on, now. Wee bit OTT. I like to root against him is all. But here I actually think Usyk could beat him. It's not rooting against Fury for the sake of it. Otherwise I'd have backed the likes a Whyte and Chisora

    and of course folks will be looking to Fury’s most recent outing when assessing this fight against Usyk. That’s only natural. He looked poor three months ago. Maybe two weeks time he’ll be a lot better, or same, or worse.



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    #13341
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users Posts: 20,755 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121710642#Comment_121710642

    Just hope for the state of boxing we get one of these big fights where both guys are at there best its rare

    It's funny what one performance does in boxing, Fury is now finished & Aj is back, strange when reality can be very different,



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    #13342
    OmegaGene
    Registered Users Posts: 9,331 ✭✭✭OmegaGene


    Not sure when this was filmed but fury seems like he doesn’t give a toss but that could change with the wind with him

    https://youtu.be/QTTOvd-BI0s?si=DTVNXuJLzfvKyVtI


    The internet isn’t for everyone



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    #13343
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,633 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121710654#Comment_121710654

    AJ was never really gone. He lost two bouts against a very very durable and resilient and resourceful Usyk is all.

    Fury was never gone either. This era is still up for grabs. Usyk can almost claim it if he beats Fury, and Fury can almost claim it if he beats Usyk. AJ is hovering.

    Usky wins and he will have beaten AJ and Fury!!! If Fury wins, AJ and Fury should fight, and what if AJ beat Fury? It's the whole A beats B beats C scenario. There are a few fights left to decide this era. It could well end up with no clear winner!!



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    #13344
    eagle eye
    Registered Users Posts: 38,376 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Whoever wins this fight can retire with their legacy intact age a case to be labelled the greatest ever.

    Only fighters out there with claims to deserve a shot against them would in my opinion be Zhang and Hrgovic. Thru are not that highly rated so nether Fury or Usyk need to take them on.

    There's nobody else that has beaten anybody of note in recent times.



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    #13345
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,633 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Zhang and Filip are top rated.



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    #13346
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    That’s the thing if the winner retires then they win the era by default unless the decision is a robbery. A blatant one.



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    #13347
    blade1
    Registered Users Posts: 12,347 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121711093#Comment_121711093

    I wouldn't say top rated.

    Rated maybe.

    Who have they beaten?



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    #13348
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121711901#Comment_121711901

    each other in a roundabout way. Joyce x 2 is worth credit. Rudenko isn’t a bad win. Hrgovic being in against demoiri was a peculiar one.



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    #13349
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,633 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121711901#Comment_121711901

    They’re both top 5..

    who has AJ beaten other than a washed up Klit.

    Usyk has beaten who? AJ…who fat Ruiz beat

    Fury beat washed up Klit, and Wilder.

    plenty to play for. None have Sterling resumes.

    Zhang and Filip deserve to get in the mix here

    we have a poster here claiming whoever wins Feb 17 can claim greatest ever… wtf?

    Usyk wins and he has what, 5 championship wins.. maybe less? Fury wins and hasn’t much more.. greatest ever?😖



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    #13350
    The Nal
    Registered Users Posts: 12,785 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Fight postponed. Fury got a bad cut in training and needs stitches.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/breaking-tyson-fury-pulls-out-32034424




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    #13351
    Panthro
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    Ah ffs.



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