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Ulster Team Talk Thread IV... Go On My Henderson...

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    #9302
    RuPi
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    I presume the Tector rumour is true as 3rd choice then as Humphreys isn’t good enough for a development deal. If Doak became a 10 who dipped in and covered 9 that would be fine, he was always a good 10 coming through the system but for some reason they wanted him as a 9, which he has shown he has a good few limitations around.



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    #9303
    Buer
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    I hope there's a better outhalf lined up than Tector. He's a solid player for exactly what he is, a third choice option for squad depth whilst he develops.

    Doak, Flannery and Tector would be an extremely inexperienced and flimsy outhalf depth chart. I think they would have 7 combines starts at outhalf in their professional careers. Lowry is there also but I think the ship has sailed on him as an outhalf option.

    It's really critical that there's someone else brought in for such a key position especially when there isn't great depth/experience to play alongside them at scrumhalf and guide the ship aside from a 34 year old Cooney.



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    #9304
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121709921#Comment_121709921

    Yeah, completely agree with this.

    You can't waste a year or two of the whole squad's development by not having an outhalf who allows you to compete. There is absolutely zero point in having a guy like Steven Kitshoff there on his salary, if you don't have a capable option in the most important position on the pitch.

    This isn't the NFL or NBA, there's no reward for 'tanking' a season. They must have some semblance of a plan at 10 if they're letting Burns go.

    I've also heard it rumoured that Petrie is out the door (which might give Ulster fans some cheer) but likely to be replaced by Bryn Cunningham (which will likely take away that cheer again).



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    #9305
    RuPi
    Registered Users Posts: 307 ✭✭RuPi


    There was a rumour doing the rounds yesterday that Alan Solomon’s was coming in as DoR, that would tie in with Petrie out and Bryn moving up.



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    #9306
    Utah_Saint
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    "....This isn't the NFL or NBA, there's no reward for 'tanking' a season. They must have some semblance of a plan at 10 if they're letting Burns go....."


    I love your optimism. Ulster live by the saying "Failing to plan, is planning to fail"



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    #9307
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users Posts: 8,479 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    There's rumors that Frawley is going north? Even if they do sign Tector, I think in the long run he will be a good player.



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    #9308
    Digifriendly
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    After last night, barring injuries, it is difficult to see an Ulster player featuring for Ireland in this year's 6N.



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    #9309
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121715052#Comment_121715052

    There will be injuries though, and possibly some rotation for Italy at home.

    Wouldn’t be shocked to see any of Stewart, Henderson or even possibly Timoney feature.



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    #9310
    Digifriendly
    Registered Users Posts: 4,046 ✭✭✭Digifriendly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121715065#Comment_121715065

    If Italy somehow shock England, I can see the same Irish team but hopefully you're right.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


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    #9311
    conncussed
    Registered Users Posts: 185 ✭✭conncussed


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121715052#Comment_121715052

    Most of the Ulster players in camp will get game time during the championship, probably against Italy or Wales. McCloskey is pretty much guaranteed one start. Henderson could have come off the bench last night with no drop off in quality. O'Toole and Stewart both need game time.

    The only one I can see with zero minutes is Stockdale. I'm not sure if he's been showing enough for Ulster to start and he's not the kind of player Farrell goes for as a 23rd man.



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    #9312
    bilston
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121709827#Comment_121709827

    Sorry if we are letting Burns go to sign Tector and that is the height of our ambition then we are royally f*****.

    Not sure I'll be forking out for a ST in that instance. Absolute shambles



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    #9313
    bilston
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121710018#Comment_121710018

    Is it 2006 or something? Alan Solomons?



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    #9314
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users Posts: 8,479 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    I was thinking HB was going north?



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    #9315
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users Posts: 8,479 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Another idea for Ulster would be to sign Murphy when MacFarland leaves. I really rate Murphy.

    Another couple of impressive u20's Ulster lads on display yesterday. Ward is very tidy and Boyd looks a really good prospect.



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    #9316
    ulsteru20s
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    I don't really get why Boyd was playing on the tighthead side, but him and wilson as the future young props seems great to me.

    Hopes looks great at 6. Ward seems kind of out of place at 7. It actually shows how big gleeson is as ward looked massive playing ail. He's big but maybe not as big as gleeson.



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    #9317
    realhorrorshow
    Registered Users Posts: 1,955 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121699454#Comment_121699454

    I see Griffin is in the Ireland Clubs squad so must have been released also.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


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    #9318
    conncussed
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121710018#Comment_121710018

    That doesn't sound likely unless it's a temporary consultant role. Ulster aren't getting rid of McFarland mid season despite what some people might like. 🤣

    Alan Solomons is now in his 70s and rugby has really moved on from him.



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    #9319
    bilston
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    It was probably his only involvement in the 6Ns but I thought McCloskey had a really good game yesterday. Strong in the carry, good passing/offloading and some big tackles. To be honest he couldn't do much else.



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    #9320
    launish116
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121759561#Comment_121759561

    It looked effortless! some of his passing was sublime to open the defence.



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    #9321
    Paul Smeenus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,460 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    He's a very skilful player. A couple of coaches have just wanted him to bash it up, but his offloads and deception in Peel's last season were amazing.


    He loves a filthy offload, and that's why Schmidt never wanted him - didn't trust him to not do it.



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    #9322
    pickarooney
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121759561#Comment_121759561

    Damned if you do, damned if you don't against Italy. 5 star performance where his attributes are perfectly suited to the opposition.



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    #9323
    sydthebeat
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    McClosky is a valuable squad member but suffers from being the 3rd best 12 and only being a 12.

    The real mark of his career will be whether hes retained in the squad when Aki (2 years older) drops out.



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    #9324
    supernova5
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    great program last night - Andrew Trimble for Ulster & Ireland



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    #9325
    Paul Smeenus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,460 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    Addison away back to Sale?



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    #9326
    Locke_Lamora
    Registered Users Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭Locke_Lamora


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121767305#Comment_121767305

    I wouldn't feel any particular way about it tbh. He undoubtably improved our team and was a key player when he first arrived but his injury history speaks for itself and he hasn't been the same player since his return. Our squad would certainly be weaker as we just don't have any quality in the back three to replace him, but I assume the higher ups will see the wage bill going down as a win.

    If he does leave then the 15 jersey will be shared between McIlroy, Lowry and Stewart unless I'm forgetting someone. Each have huge downsides in their game and I'd rather leave Stockdale on the wing now that he's regaining form.



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    #9327
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users Posts: 8,479 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    A shame he was so injury prone.



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    #9328
    Paul Smeenus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,460 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    Can't help wondering if the shedding of expensive players is also about making it possible to pay off D McF early.

    I wonder if Richie Murphy fancies a crack up North?



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    #9329
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users Posts: 8,479 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    I'd be happy to see Richie go up to Ulster. He'd need to bring in a new team. The coaching set up as it stands, is poor.



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    #9330
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,379 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Ulster dismissing talk of Burns leaving

    https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/rugby/ulster-rugby/ulster-wont-be-affected-by-off-pitch-rumours-like-billy-burns-exit-dan-soper/a129180126.html



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    #9331
    Paul Smeenus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,460 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    Do they? They say it's not having an affect on the players off-pitch, but I don't see where they say it's not actually true?



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