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Removed from civil service panel

  • 01-02-2024 10:03pm
    #1
    feb2024
    Registered Users, Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 17 ✭


    Note:will the mods put this post in the correct forum please

    I applied for a job in the civil service, I had to pick two locations, I got an offer last Autumn, it was a location that didn’t suit so I asked hr what would happen if I turned the job down so I was told by person and an email that I would be removed from the panel from the county that I got offered but I would remain on the panel for the other county, so I turned down the offer after serious thought

    I made enquiries around Christmas and I was told that I was removed from the panel, I asked why and I was told that you can’t turn down a job and remain on a panel so I explained what I was told and I got an email back saying that I was given incorrect information and I am gone off the panel, so I once again explained my case

    What would people think I should do next, surely I don’t think it’s right that I am penalised over incorrect information, I made my decision in good faith that I received correct information,I would appreciate all replies and views please

    Post edited by Spear on


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  • #2
    feb2024
    Registered Users, Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 17 ✭feb2024


    I’m having problems, I’m not getting my email to activate or verify my account,



  • #3
    channelsurfer2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭channelsurfer2


    You need to post it in jobs..but anyway normally you get to pick two counties.if you turn down one you are removed from that county and stay on the other



  • #4
    feb2024
    Registered Users, Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 17 ✭feb2024


    I’m awaiting an email to verify my account, I can’t seem to post there yet. Hopefully the mods will move this thread, so with the facts I have given do you think I have a good chance to fight this decision?

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121708689#Comment_121708689




  • #5
    Augme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,149 ✭✭✭Augme


    Was the competition through PAS?



  • #6
    feb2024
    Registered Users, Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 17 ✭feb2024


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121709065#Comment_121709065

    Yes it was



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  • #7
    feb2024
    Registered Users, Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 17 ✭feb2024


    Sorry could anyone help I have tryed various ways of activating my account and I’m not getting the email verification, I’m anxious to get some feedback on the issue I’m discussing



  • #8
    channelsurfer2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭channelsurfer2


    Ask pas in writing to confirm you are excluded from both counties



  • #9
    feb2024
    Registered Users, Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 17 ✭feb2024


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121710440#Comment_121710440

    Why should I do that?



  • #10
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,263 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Have you pm'd the mod in question



  • #11
    Kimbot
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,695 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121708891#Comment_121708891

    contact hello@boards.ie



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  • #12
    Wheety
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,512 ✭✭✭Wheety


    Appeal it. You were told you would not be removed from the panel for the other location.


    Do you have the original information booklet? Check that and see what it says.



  • #13
    Wheety
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,512 ✭✭✭Wheety


    Appeal it. You were told you would not be removed from the panel for the other location.


    Do you have the original information booklet? Check that and see what it says.



  • #14
    feb2024
    Registered Users, Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 17 ✭feb2024


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121711354#Comment_121711354

    I was told twice that I would remain on it and confirmed by email but the booklet says that you are removed so I don’t know what to do but my decision was based that I would remain on it



  • #15
    Augme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,149 ✭✭✭Augme


    Look at the public jobs website. You'll want to research section 8 appeal and you'll also find information on the cpsa website too. I suggest emailing them telling them you'll be left no choice but to put in a section 8 appeal if they don't overturn the decision.



  • #16
    feb2024
    Registered Users, Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 17 ✭feb2024


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121711851#Comment_121711851

    Thanks I must do that, they don’t seem to be giving me any information when I contact them asking why I was told wrong information they just keep saying that I’m removed



  • #17
    Augme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,149 ✭✭✭Augme


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121711869#Comment_121711869

    I wouldn't bother getting into a back and forth on it. Just go straight to mentioning you'll appeal it if not replaced.



  • #18
    feb2024
    Registered Users, Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 17 ✭feb2024


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121711875#Comment_121711875

    And how did they make the mistake and who would be responsible?



  • #19
    Augme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,149 ✭✭✭Augme


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121711887#Comment_121711887

    Depends on what exactly the mistake was. Check the information booklet to see if it specifies the rules around the removal from a panel. If it doesn't, the person who sent you incorrect information made the mistake probably not realising they were making a mistake. I was under the impression that if you are removed from one a panel for one location, you remain on it for the decond location but they may have changed that.



  • #20
    feb2024
    Registered Users, Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 17 ✭feb2024


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121711940#Comment_121711940

    That’s exactly what I was told until I got on to hr again at Christmas making enquiries and then I was told I was gone

    I think the booklet says that you can’t turn down a position and remain on the panel

    That is what makes this situation awkward I am been told conflicting information and I have said this and all they is is that I was told wrong information, I don’t think it’s fair I’m penialised over someone’s else’s mistake



  • #21
    feb2024
    Registered Users, Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 17 ✭feb2024


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121711151#Comment_121711151

    I can’t pm till I’m verified



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  • #22
    feb2024
    Registered Users, Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 17 ✭feb2024


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121711291#Comment_121711291

    Can you send me a link please



  • #23
    EchoIndia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,085 ✭✭✭EchoIndia


    The terms for the competition as set out in the booklet are ultimately the rules you sign up to when applying. However there's nothing to be lost in appealing, especially if you have the documentary evidence of your query and the response received.



  • #24
    DM_7
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,428 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121711973#Comment_121711973

    Hi, I hope things work out for you.

    I just wanted to check sonething. You say you contacted HR at the time of your offer but that it was a PAS competition.

    Was if your own HR, the HR of the Department making an offer or PAS that told you that you could turn down the post and stay on the panel for the other location?

    If it was a PAS competition then it would have been PAS that would have needed to confirm what happens. A person in a Department's HR section may not have been able to advise on PAS rules.



  • #25
    feb2024
    Registered Users, Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 17 ✭feb2024


    Yeah I was reading that, and the booklet says that but the person I was speaking connected hr before I made my decision and hr told them that I could remain



  • #26
    feb2024
    Registered Users, Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 17 ✭feb2024


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121712626#Comment_121712626
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121713172#Comment_121713172

    Sorry, the department contacted me with an offer, I was very undecided and gave plenty time thinking about it so I asked the person in the department what would happen if I turned it down so they said that they would check with hr and get back to me, so they got back to me and said I would be removed from the county that I got offered but would remain on the other panel, this was confirmed with an email saying hr were informed of my decision and they got back saying that the panels had been extended and I had a better chance of been offered something

    But I contacted pas at Christmas and I was told that I was removed from the panel



  • #27
    feb2024
    Registered Users, Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 17 ✭feb2024


    still can’t verify my account and move this to the proper section which is very frustrating



  • #28
    HeidiHeidi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,592 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    It sounds like you have nothing to lose by submitting an appeal, so why don't you concentrate your energies on that instead of trying to get this moved to another forum, which will only provide replies from more anonymous boardsies who are not in possession of full information......

    It really doesn't matter what anyone on boards says - the only place you'll get a definitive answer one way or the other is from PAS.



  • #29
    feb2024
    Registered Users, Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 17 ✭feb2024


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121715542#Comment_121715542

    Thanks, but if I lose an appeal would this go again me in the future if I was applying for a job again



  • #30
    Augme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,149 ✭✭✭Augme


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121716263#Comment_121716263

    No, it won't count against you. Also, if it was HR in a department who told you that you would remain on the panel it is much less likely you'll win the appeal. They have nothing to so with the process.



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  • #31
    feb2024
    Registered Users, Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 17 ✭feb2024


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121716278#Comment_121716278

    No it was the hr in pas told the hr in the department that was confirmed in a email



  • #32
    Spear
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,539 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    That's enough of this misuse of the DRP forum. The OP maybe new, but the rest of should have known better.

    @feb2024 as above, you were advised to email hello@boards.ie to sort your account if the automated email doesn't work. Once that's fixed you cana sk in the proper forum.

    This is being closed in the meantime, as there's little point in moving it where you can't reply.



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