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Ireland Under-20 2024 Team

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    #392
    sliabh 1956
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    That was heroic great skill and technique against that massive french team Murphy is some coach



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    #393
    techdiver
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    Fantastic win by a fantastic team. Every time it looked like the momentum was slipping away they stepped it up (very much like the senior team).

    The one nitpick is that as a nation our 1 glaring weakness is in the scrum. We just don't seem to be producing top class scrumaging props. Now perhaps we are prioritising mobile ball playing props at the expense of carrying a prop just for scrums like in yesteryear.

    All that aside the future does look bright.



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    #394
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users Posts: 8,581 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121718172#Comment_121718172

    I thought the scrum fared well.



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    #395
    nerd69
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121718187#Comment_121718187

    Ahh we got butchered and got away with a few others. Sparrows a poor scrummager i think



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    #396
    Clegg
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    My first time watching Alan Spicer play. He's a big lump of a fella and when he hits you you stay hit. Always a positive for a lock.

    He isn't the turbo athlete that Leinster and Ireland have been selecting in recent years. But he looks good at set piece and works hard. Definitely worth persisting with. Especially as he's only 18 and qualifies for the u20's again next season.



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    #397
    ulsteru20s
    Registered Users Posts: 2,544 ✭✭✭ulsteru20s


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121718187#Comment_121718187

    Sparrow got eaten in a number of them. It did better than i thought it would tho.



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    #398
    ulsteru20s
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121718172#Comment_121718172

    Both props are recent enough converts. this is a development tournament at the end of the day tho.



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    #399
    FrancieBrady
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    That was as hard and physical game as you’d see.

    Great win, great heart and teamwork.



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    #400
    techdiver
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121718193#Comment_121718193

    I completely understand but the 1 weakness in both teams is exactly the same. It's no secret that we are light on props coming through in Ireland.

    Anyway I don't want to take away from tonight. It was a great result and performance. The prop situation is a wider concern.



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    #401
    durthacht
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121718187#Comment_121718187

    Who are you and why have you hacked Dubinusa's account?



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    #402
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users Posts: 8,581 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121718207#Comment_121718207

    Lol



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    #403
    All_in_Flynn
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    Would have been annoyed if we didn't win that. Whenever we played a couple of phases we seemed to make inroads pretty easily but we were a little bit sloppy in the breakdown. To be expected in the first match to be fair.

    Some serious talent in the team. Gleeson looks a monster at this level. Ireland are producing serious talent in the back row consistently.

    Like the look of De Klerk. Has something about him.



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    #404
    durthacht
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121718215#Comment_121718215

    Just kidding! 😀



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    #405
    pickarooney
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    Some glimpses of real talent on show. Some probably just going to to join the backlog of back rows all over the country fighting for playing time. Gleeson is obviously on the track to being a regular URC player at least. Gavin will hopefully get some appearances. I liked the look of Hopes but fear he might disappear. Not much on show from the half backs or back three and it's always hard to know with the props. A lot only come good with age and experience. If we had an equivalent flog the ProD2 it would do these lads a world of good.

    AFAIK the Top14 clubs didn't release players for the 6N so we won't see the best of the French until the world cup.



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    #406
    typhoony
    Registered Users Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭typhoony


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121718190#Comment_121718190

    He's a bit like a 2nd row that the French or English team would have, you lose out due to his lack of athleticism but you gain with the extra heft he provides in the set pieces and mauls. I don't think he's ever going to be a player that carries and makes meters or tackles a huge amount but you definitely need a player like him.



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    #407
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,466 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    I don't see anything about Spicer to suggest he'll have a career in pro rugby but I'd like to quote myself in 5 years when he's pulling on an Ireland jersey.



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    #408
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users Posts: 8,581 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Spicer is just 18. Plenty of time to improve.



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    #409
    ulsteru20s
    Registered Users Posts: 2,544 ✭✭✭ulsteru20s


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121718320#Comment_121718320

    I think you will be. That size is such an asset in scrum and maul. The latter especially would be a big deal. I think other than that you put a ton of work into him being just a rock defensively, and you have a very valuable player.



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    #410
    johnh6767
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    Gavin, Gleeson were standout ! They will be players of the competition. Very different dynamic to last year where Gunne / Prendergast dictated the Irish plays and controlled the game. This year I feel our pack determine the result. French back line became weaker as the game progressed which is unlike them . Mind you 6N French team were a world apart when it came to world championship



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    #411
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users Posts: 8,581 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121718345#Comment_121718345

    A little work on explosiveness and athleticism will benifit Spicer. He played pretty well. Just 18! Holy feck!



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    #412
    johnh6767
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    Watched again. Some very fine players on that team, Gleeson, Gavin, O’Connell, & DeKlerk are standout in my view



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    #413
    Allie Agreeable Boot
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    Really super win. That French team had a lot of talent in it, and a load of top level rugby experience, and it’s testament to the coaching that Ireland won it.

    Thought Hugh Gavin was the best player on the pitch. He’s got everything and has come on a lot year over year. Both he and Gleeson play with a bit of edge or nastiness to their game which is brilliant.

    Don’t get the criticism of the scrum - we were fine there until Sparrow left. Thought Danny Sheehan had a good game.

    Brian Gleeson immense as always, and I thought Joe Hopes looks a really good player.

    Hugo McLaughlin had a few nice moments and would have had a walk in try but for an inexcusably poor piece of play from O’Connor.

    Would like to see if Sean Edogbo could bring another carrier or a bit more dynamism into the 23.

    Some quality players on the French side. Both wingers exceptionally quick, back row all big and abrasive. Scrum half was incredibly annoying but a quality player.



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    #414
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users Posts: 8,581 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    The rewatch is a pleasure too. Seriously exciting match. Our lads with previous experience really stood out. Coffee played quite well. He's got a good kicking game. I really like the back row, they were very good.

    As this 6nations continues the lads will gel and kick on. England could be a banana skin though! They looked very good.



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    #415
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users Posts: 8,581 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    I know Murphy and Corrigan are from Pres, Bray. Who's the 3rd player?



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    #416
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users Posts: 8,581 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    If Sparrow blew his hammy, I think Deay will come in.



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    #417
    RuPi
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121719575#Comment_121719575

    Finn Treacy



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    #418
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users Posts: 8,581 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121719646#Comment_121719646

    Thanks. Didn't know.



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    #419
    ulsteru20s
    Registered Users Posts: 2,544 ✭✭✭ulsteru20s


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121718914#Comment_121718914

    Where were you able to rewatch?

    Its my recollection that every scrum penalty was before he left (or all but one) and on his side. Obviously, that doesn't mean he himself was to blame but its rare that my memory is that far off. I'd like to see it again though to check.

    I thought O Connor should have passed but also that winger was one of the fastest i've ever seen at this level and then made the perfect tackle. 95/100 times that's a try and we never talk about it again.

    Also, i thought it was illegal to tackle with the arm over the shoulder. And it certainly looked like his arm was over his shoulder.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


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    #420
    Allie Agreeable Boot
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121719872#Comment_121719872

    I recorded it on first watching (record almost every game - have the Sky box jammed up with French Top 14 games).

    I thought they largely stood their ground in the scrum, and in two occasions it was French players popping up and getting rewarded. It wasn’t a calamity anyway, given they were giving away a lot of size in the front row.



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    #421
    Locke_Lamora
    Registered Users Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭Locke_Lamora


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121719872#Comment_121719872

    Still available here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/live/crgr38dny9zt#player

    rugby24.net have it as well



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