The new recycling system

give exhaustive evidence on what? you only keep posting what the law says, you show/say nothing on how return can go after the store. you only keep pointing to what laws you think the store has broken. and provided no actual reasoning for return showing the store is guilty, or of showing that the store has to repay the deposits of cans that were obtained and redeemed by customers who never paid a deposit. return have no way of knowing which can came from where.

in a court you're told to prove it, and show on paper how you came to believe the store is guilty. no speculation allowed on proof for your claims. not a copy paste of what laws you think they broke

I don't think its actually possible to get rid of your green bin anymore; and nearly every provider that charges per lift or by weight is cheaper for the green bin than the general waste (blue/black/a different shade of green) bin anyway.

I've a choice of three providers, and every single plan is three bins - no choices. There are per lift plans available but all have vastly cheaper green and brown bins than general

So what's the story now with bottles that have the tax charged but no Return logo. Can we just stick them in the machine? If so, might we go through our recycle bin and picks others out and put them through as well? I suppose worst comes to worst and they won't take them, we can leave them there for the store to sort out.

New barcode on bottles and cans can get authorization in machine only if no logo ,

Manual return needs a logo.

I doubt any of us yet have new stock as stores need to get rid of all stock first.

But these are machines that have been working in other countries for years without issues. What could go wrong here?

Went to Tesco today, two machines one out of action.

Selling off 24 trays of 7up free, pepsi max etc for 10 euros - clearly marked as not having the recycling deposit - so stocked up, still plenty left. By the time I am buying more at least I will know they can be returned.

I am on a pay as you use system with my waste company. I don't put the green (recycling) bin out at all. It's cheaper for me to bring my recycling (including stuff the bin wouldn't take - glass, aluminium foil, metal) to the local recycling centre - I can get rid of a lot more there and the entry fee (4 euro )is less than one green bin collection charge (about 7.50 euro at the mo).

I have no doubt the recycling centre entry fee will go up as the throughput of aluminium cans and plastic bottles goes down.

Someone using an automatic checkout in Tesco was asked to scan a Clubcard first before using an RVM voucher.

Another poster did not have that problem.

It's probably an incorrectly programmed machine.

In any event it's in breach of the Return rules so shouldn't be happening.

Why didn't someone invent a machine that would take any of these vans in any condition and have the intelligence to put the barcode in such a way that it would be read by the machine?

Accepting only intact cans is surely cutting out a whole lot of cana that are recyclable also.

They are surely crushed at some.point after they enter the machine.

There are simple solutions.to.moat things but obviously an agenda or lak of foresight restricts tackling these issues in a more straightforward way.

Anyhoo no concern of me.. I don't purchase cans in any form or minerals.

Was in Lidl this afternoon, while my wife was shopping, out of pure curiosity I took a few mins to see what's on the shelves.

Somewhat to not be able to find any "new stock", i.e items with deposit or logo. Single exception was the Kinnegar beers.

When do we think the tipping point will be, i.e when will most items have the logo?

Did my shopping yesterday and looking closely for deposit notifications. SValu no notices, one large mineral bought-no deposit.

Aldi, beer bought amongst regular groceries, no notices-labels, no deposit charged. Machine sitting there very lonely and looked to be twice the size of the one in SValu.

I seem to be the exception where it did work. Nobody else has said it works in Tesco without a clubcard.

Didn’t cop it was the same person. Apologies 😅

Went to my local Tesco to give it a try, had a bag of random cans and bottles, all rejected. 3 of the 4 machines out of service also, wether they were broke or needed emptying I don’t know.

Did you pay deposits on any of them?