General Premier League Thread 2023-24 Mod Note in op 27/6/23 And 21/05/24

He's the only manager allowed to celebrate sure, don't you know it means more?

Klopp saying the game could've ended 1-1 because of how the second goal was scored. Has he forgotten they got the equaliser without a shot on target so it deserved to be 1-0.

Why have so many managers made themselves unlikeable characters. All this running mad, punching the air etc. Making it all about them. Ego's on them!

And sky commentary. Talk about hyperbole. All the prepared lines, guy up all night writing them.

Robbie Savage put all of the anti celebration police from Pool back in their boxes on the 5 Live phone in..he used the Klopp pitch raid vs Everton as an example of Pool double standards on that. It was hilarious to hear the silences when he asked them about why that was different.

There are no real saving graces from Arteta though. Klopp steps over the line, frequently enough actually, but there is a humour and a charm from him when he's not being a complete ar5ehile. Arteta has none of that, at least publically, and besides, he's won nothing as a manager to back it up.

'Salah you little dancer' a very unbiased line of commentary

A manager who celebrates is loved by the fans but it's also good for the team. When he's celebrating or giving out about decisions the whole squad sees him as one of them. So when he tells them at training that it's them versus the world or starts building them up for a big game it's likely they are all in because he's shown that he's all in.

I think anybody criticising managers celebrating needs to stand back for a moment and weigh up the advantages vs the negative benefits of a manager celebrating a goal. For me it's a whole lot better for the club.

To summarise:

My team's manager does it, it's ok

Opposition team's manager does it, it's not ok

Arteta was bred to be a mini-Pep hence the constrant histrionics

I can accept Arteta is bad, but if you think Klopp isn't in the same ballpark you may need your eyes checked. He's constantly giving it to the fourth official.

Trying to remember the last time I seen Carlo Ancelloti running up the line or punching the air like a madman.

Carlo is old school, he must be 30 years managing teams by now. He played under the legendary Arrigo Sacchi and Fabio Capello. That's where he learned how to act on a sideline. You never seen Alex Ferguson or Arsenal Wenger celebrating either.

The world moves on and things change. You have to move with the times. What was a great way to do things 20 years ago is the wrong way to do it now.

When I was young players kicked lumps out of each other and if it wasn't a serious assault the referee would get stick for giving a free kick.

So these days lots of managers celebrate goals and give out about most decisions against their team. I think it's good for team bonding. I may be wrong but we won't know that until it's going on for a decade or more or some new better way to act comes along.

Great performance by arsenal, poor by Liverpool, could klopps decision to announce his step down (talk a out ego) effect senior players performances, senior players looked like they have given up

This is undoubtedly the answer yes.

Everything is relative,wolves beating them at home indicates they are shite at moment, Liverpool beating them at anfield ,meh , but small margins etc so I wouldn't over analyze it,knock it ,it was a good result .

Oh ok, maybe the senior players have given up so

Arteta knew it was a must win and he got the result so I wouldn’t begrudge him a little celebration. There’s plenty to dislike about Arteta, but let him celebrate. I found what Odegaard was doing though very strange after the final whistle. s a Carragher says, you won the game, now get off the pitch! The trick for Liverpool and/or Arsenal now will be to win the next 5 games in a row.

Arsenal dominated Liverpool and it was a massive win and the stadium atmosphere came across great on telly, why wouldn’t they celebrate? Odegaard with the camera was a bit cringey but who cares (bar Carragher it seems)

We can't have lads getting any enjoyment out of these big moments, can we? The Craic police have to clamp down on anyone getting any craic out of the sport, the game ought to be a sanitized borefest really.

It all started back in Victorian times when lads started shaking hands and clapping each other on the back after scoring a goal, then the foreigners started kissing each other on the cheeks and hugging, now lads jumping up and down after winning what they see as a big game they targeted and needed a result in..... Where will it all end I ask you???

Next thing they'll be allowing women to play the game ffs!!!!

Remember Klopp brought the whole Liverpool team out to the pitch to celebrate a 2-2 draw with West Brom?

Carragher and people who are upset by a team celebrating a win really need to stop been so salty. If a team can’t celebrate a win then what is sport all about???